#Women are not Objects – The Experience is Different for Women and Men

@Makagutu

The idea of shaving your pubes and pits, or the quote of Ms.Grey? :)

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@JJS

#Notallmen for the winz!

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@JJS

“Using that logic”

There you go again using that word and then directly translating it to how YOU see the world. At this time, may I remind you about the last half of the title “the experience is different for women and men.

You are used to being the author/subject in your experience. Women are not, they as much of their reality is imposed upon them, thus as a (object)vessel to put experiences in. This duality makes the experience in society different for the sexes.

“It’s not good logic regardless of the point of view.”

It is excellent logic when existing as female in society.

Getting back to formal logic land (divorced from the reality of society and women’s lived experienes),of course, logically not all men behave in manner “x”.

You end here. But the key bits are just around the corner.

Not all men demonstrate behaviour “x”, ***BUT*** enough men do actually exhibit behaviour “x” – thus a critical mass of men in society that do partake in “X” exist.

Women, without exclusive access to each and every man’s thought she encounters, therefore for their continued safety and well-being in society make assumptions about men as a class, until individual men – through their actions – prove the generalized assumption wrong.

You’ll love this, I’m sure, but see Schrödinger’s Rapist for more details.

“That’s the problem with established belief systems!”

I’m not sure what problem you are referring to. The responses radical feminism offers are predicated on what is happening in the real world.

Pornography is grooming men toward a certain set of values and preferences, being hairless and looking like a prepubescent girl is just the top of heap. Among the top searches for porn these days – “teen”, “young”, “Lolita”. All men, of course not, but enough men for it be a major fracking problem.

More radical feminist analysis from Gail Dines in an article from The Guardian:

“”I have found that the earlier men use porn,” says Dines, “the more likely they are to have trouble developing close, intimate relationships with real women. Some of these men prefer porn to sex with an actual human being. They are bewildered, even angry, when real women don’t want or enjoy porn sex.”

Porn culture doesn’t only affect men. It also changes “the way women and girls think about their bodies, their sexuality and their relationships,” says Dines. “Every group that has fought for liberation understands that media images are part and parcel of the systematic dehumanisation of an oppressed group . . . The more porn images filter into mainstream culture, the more girls and women are stripped of full human status and reduced to sex objects. This has a terrible effect on girls’ sexual identity because it robs them of their own sexual desire.”

Images have now become so extreme that acts that were almost non-existent a decade ago have become commonplace. From studying thousands of porn films and images Dines found that the most popular acts depicted in internet porn include vaginal, oral and anal penetration by three or more men at the same time; double anal; double vaginal; a female gagging from having a penis thrust into her throat; and ejaculation in a woman’s face, eyes and mouth.

“To think that so many men hate women to the degree that they can get aroused by such vile images is quite profound,” says Dines. “Pornography is the perfect propaganda piece for patriarchy. In nothing else is their hatred of us quite as clear.”

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