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The bullshit is coming full circle now. A purportedly feminist organization using a slur against women who question transgender ideology. We see you Women’s March and note your centring of men in your policies. Fortunately on they are having a rough go of it on twitter as actual feminists are taking their misogyny to task.
This is why effective feminist organizing focusing on liberating females from the structures of patriarchy, rather than chasing some never to be realized notion of equality. Women never win in a patriarchy, and attempting to play by the rules is a recipe for disaster (see the gender-self-id bollocks).
Greetings nature lovers, today we get to observe in the wild an all to common animal – the delusional oppressed male. Deep in the basement man-cave, writing furious man-words about how terrible men have it, and why women bitches have it so darn good. I think dissertations like the one about to follow are reason enough to be wary of the hermetic bubbles that can form in internet land, where critical thought is extinguished and replaced by the toxic group-think that masquerades as reasonable thought.
Our featured whinger extraordinaire is Red Shambhala and his very… umm… nuanced view of feminism and the female role in society.
““I’m a feminist who loves rough sex“, “I’m a queer little“, “How I reconciled feminism with my first step into the dark side of BDSM”, “Why I’m Both Sexually Submissive AND A Feminist” – put feminism and BDSM into a search engine and you will quickly be greeted by numerous articles about stronk feminist womyn who have stopped worrying and loved to learn the whip.”
Fascinating premise. BDSM, or the replication of male violence and female submission for fun?!? isn’t a particularly feminist act, nor like much of the rest of liberal feminism, worth examining past the idea that any ideological stance that centres men and their feelings can not rightly be called feminist. So Red Shitolya is already off to a bad start.
“Meanwhile, Return of Kings et al. are more than eager to similarly praise BDSM as something women “secretly” want (but just do not want to admit) and men should therefore do
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Unsurprising, as BDSM reinforces patriarchal ideals, why wouldn’t misogynists be all over such propositions?
“What these seemingly disparate groups have in common is that they are primarily concerned about what women want.”
Doubtful. RoK and liberal feminists may both support the current status quo, but exhibit markedly different levels of clueless foolishness that detract from the work of feminism proper (e.g. the emancipation of females from the strictures of patriarchy).
“Obviously, liberals and conservatives, left-wingers and right-wingers cannot exactly agree on what precisely it is the fair sex allegedly wants, but they do share the same gynocentric framework, namely in posing the question, “What do women want?”, and then attempting to answer said question.”
To be treated as fully human in society is a great place to start. And what exactly the fuck is a gynocentric framework. Referring to a topic isn’t “centric” anything. Biologists talking about their work are not being bio-centric. Of the many tells Male Rights Activists give, this is one of the most obvious – the inversion of the power structure in society. Somehow females, the class that holds less power, is taken less seriously, and is abused more in society has all the power and is always up to “no good” and wants to enslave all men to their dastardly agenda. By “no good” I mean opposing the current patriarchal status quo of course. But the very notion that dudes exist in a society that they made and directly benefits them in a myriad of ways is quite past the event horizon of most MRA’s; as appreciating tangible facts is quite outside their wheelhouse.
“Antifeminism, however, should not be about giving a different answer to the frustrated query “What do women want?” but, rather, about asking alternative questions: “What do men actually want? And why the hell do we only care about what women want?”“
What we have today in society is what men want, you feckless douche nozzle. Losing your place privileged place in society and actually have to treat everyone with respect is not the shit-your-pants apocalyptic nightmare you envision. Not even close.
“The current omnipresence of gynocentric thought, however, should not leave one with the impression that focusing exclusively on the desires of females has always been unchallenged.”
The level of unhinged quickly goes past 11. Back here in reality, the world is still dominated by male thought, male writers, captains of industry, academia, art, and literature. We are drowning in the dudeish perspective and it fucking sucks. The half of the world that isn’t represented by said male view needs to see itself portrayed in literature, culture, and business. The few inroads into male dominated fields represent a clear and present danger to MRA’s like the Red Shitola, and as always their fears are based on the dark nightmare fuel that is regurgitated through the manosphere.
“There are both secular as well as religious alternatives to subordinating everything to the vapid whims and wills of women. Christianity, for instance, teaches that “man is the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for woman, but woman for man.” (1 Corinthians 11:7). “
This book that says its a sin to wear clothing of mixed fibres is now an authority on how a modern society should work. *shaking head*
“Likewise, the book of Genesis tells us that Satan, the great deceiver who attempts to leads humanity astray, tempted Eve by talking her into believing that she could be like God. Meanwhile, Adam was similarly tempted and convinced that he should follow the proud female’s advice.”
And the burning bush is full of wisdom of the ages. Citing the bible to back your claims is a risible practice at best, and to be honest boring as heck.
“Even from a non-Christian perspective one has to admit that both men and women are indeed often tempted to put women in the place that is traditionally reserved for the only God in Abrahamic religions.”
Our heroic dude-bro, cites two examples the exact opposite of what he states in the following paragraph. Consistency, what the fuck is it?
“Consider, for instance, how many pagan religions worship motherhood goddesses and how the evil US Empire is able to justify its imperialist wars by claiming that they only murder in order to “liberate” women.”
What are you talking about, you’re not making any sense. Does anyone else here think that our beloved Red Shitola is a avid follower of Alex Jones? He’s making about that level of sense …
“Be that as it may, according to the holy texts of Christianity, the punishment for sin was not only death but also that the women’s desire is now “contrary to her husband.” Before the fall, the female gladly fulfilled her roles as the submissive helper she was created for by the Christian’s God – after the fall, she is now boisterous and unsubmissive, her desire is now “contrary” to her husband. Hence, a female refusing to submit is both sin and the result of sin.”
When people ask about how religion reinforces patriarchal notions and the patriarchal status quo I should just reference this Joker and his man-boner for the good ole days where you could just straight up kill disobedient women. The notion that we need to combat this fierce imbalance the world over rather than propagate it, must seem like some fanciful feminist dream conspiracy. Of course, the nearer one comes to reality, the more out of touch it seems to delusional dudes such as Red Shitola.
“This is not to say that I support Christianity or believe the teachings of Jesus to have the power to repair Western society, but there might be an occasional diamond to pluck from the dunghill of Abrahamic religions. “
Oh hey, all that stuff I said about religion and stuff, I don’t actually believe it anything. But if a credulous source happens to fit my world-veiw, I’ll endorse it with aplomb. Because fuck critical thinking and analysis, they too must be part of gynocentric thought frameworks…
“If memory serves, it was Fyodor Shcherbatskoy (1866-1942), the great Russian Indologist largely responsible for laying the foundations in the Western world for the scholarly study of Buddhism, who once replied that he did not approve of his contemporaries’ literal attack on the Christian churches, but, rather, considered Torah, Bible, Talmud and Qur’an to be “cultural treasure chambers.” So, maybe the saints and sages of the past do have a thing or two to teach us about women.”
You know how I just said that religion was crap? Just after saying it wasn’t crap to begin with? Yes, well religion once again isn’t crap. I think the feminist overlords broke into this guys computer and changed the dictionary meanings of ‘convoluted’ and ‘nuanced’ because you can feel the all the (erroneous) mental work that has gone into this tepid series of contradictory paragraphs. It’s like he’s occasionally seen good writing but then somehow mistook his rubegoldberg-esque pap for that good writing and declared it a masterpiece. Another solid victory for Dunning-Kruger.
“To return to the main point, BDSM is essentially a faux-surrogate for actual dominance and actual submission. Instead of a sweet, warm and submissive helper whose cheeks blush upon receiving a playful slap on her bum, men now have to deal with ugly, boisterous feminists who want their boyfriends to spit in their faces, whip and abuse them, and simulate rape like conditions.“
Wait, what? You are blaming women for the pornified violent BDSM culture? Of course you are, as women are always to blame for the shitty things men do and say.
“For whatever reason, internet virgins sometimes seem to believe that women being into BDSM is a sign of femininity, but the opposite is true.”
How do you even get here from what you’ve said? This is masterclass in pulling random shit of ones ass and calmly stating it as ‘fact’.
“The more feminist a female is, the more pain and humiliation she needs in order to still feel like a woman in the bedroom. Likewise, the more feminine a woman is, the less she wants you to hurt and to humiliate her.”
What? Feminism takes a dim view of the abusive nature of BDSM and realizes the replication of the patriarchal status quo. This is the notion on display that there is ‘one true nature’ for the women-folk and that those haughty outliers (who dare speak against patriarchy) somehow need to be broken down to enjoy the true awesomeness of being part of the oppressed, submissive, servile class. Fucking disgusting this pornified dudes fantasies on display for the world to read.
“To sum up, the faux “dominance” of consensual sadomasochism is outright pathetic. “
Because we need the real life version because that somehow is ‘better’ for all involved.
So. Much. Misogyny.
“This is not to say that BDSM and fetishes are generally sick, “degenerate”, sinful, wrong and yada yada yada. Men should be aware, though, that women want to reduce men to the status of dogs; dogs that look dark and dangerous and threatening when they bark, and are yet on the leash of the female, who only has to snap her fingers once to make him roleplay as a “master” in the bedroom, and then snap her fingers twice in order to transform him back into her little beta boi. Men deserve better than that. “
Taking a position must be a hard thing to do in the manosphere, because the level of contradiction is off the scale.
You tepid underwear stain of a human being; men are not oppressed in society. Understand that men design, maintain, and propagate this system we live in for their benefit, why would they want to maintain the status-quo if it wasn’t good for them.
Your connection with reality is tenuous at best. Please stop writing and wasting precious electrons your self-abrogating tortured prose. The delusional MRA funhouse framework you exist in is an affront to rationality and clear thinking. In short, you are making the world a worse place to be in and you don’t even realize it.
And that friends is the truly scary part.
When you get what you ask for and realize it wasn’t what you were asking for. In this case dudes wanting cultural legitimacy for their hobby, but of course, unwilling to but up with critical scrutiny of what their hobby actually entails.
I like the replication of toxic patriarchal in my video games and death to those bitches that would criticize what I like… Pretty much the whole Gamer Gate fiasco in a nutshell.
Impotent dude rage…
Fun fact: Morgan Ramsay, founder of the Entertainment Media Counsel, did an objective study of how much of gaming journalism talks about sexism or social justice.
To do this, he downloaded 130,524 articles from 37 RSS feeds of 23 outlets, including The Escapist, Rock Paper Shotgun, CVG, Edge Online, Eurogamer, Gamasutra, Game Informer, GamePolitics, GamesBeat, GamesIndustry International, GameSpot, GamesRadar, IGN, IndieGames, Joystiq, Kotaku, Massively, MCV, NowGamer, PocketGamer.biz, Polygon, Shacknews and VG24/7, published over a period of twelve months. He then did a search on how often these games articles mentioned sexism, feminism, or misogyny.
The result? Over a period of one year, 0.41% of 130,524 articles referenced feminism, feminist, sexism, sexist, misogyny, and misogynist explicitly.
That’s less than half of one percent.
So next time you hear someone whining that “feminism is taking over video games journalism”, what they’re actually whining about is that feminism exists in video games journalism.
Scientists are predicting the Perseid Meteor Shower will be extra-spectacular this year, with up to double the usual number of meteors – up to 200 per hour!
Arb and I are probably not going to get to see them: the forecast is for clouds and rain a good portion of the night. If any of our dear readers manage to take in the sight, I’d love to live vicariously through your reports!
I used to be indifferent to falling back. The extra hour of sleep on the one day is nice but whatever. The choice of driving to work in the dark, or driving home in the dark, isn’t that material to me, and once December comes, it’s in the dark both ways regardless of Daylight time or Standard time.
Then I got into horses. And maybe Daylight time is great if you have horses on your property and getting up to do early morning chores isn’t quite as dreadful if the sun is up. I, however, am a city girl and I get my horsey time in the evenings. Which are now pitch black. It could be worse; the place I ride has a well-lit, semi-heated arena for lessons.
I’ve been sick and missed lessons; yesterday was my first time out since the time change. And it is worse: I had to go catch my assigned horse, in the dark. This presented a number of problems: Read the rest of this entry »
Only a taste gentle readers of the abundant multiloquence of pants-on-head-stupid over at “Enlightening Science” – with the ever so ironic tagline ‘with knowledge comes power’. Dammit, there went the irony meter – again.
Prepare yourselves for a sagacious trip into the dark netherworlds of dudely logic and mansplination (line breaks added for readability):
“Imagine a situation.
Peter and his new girlfriend Janice are going to dinner. During the dinner they have lots of fun, but when Peter and Janice are walking home and she mentions that she is a feminist, Peter asks why isn’t feminism called equalism instead if the movement is fighting for equal rights among females and males. And this was Peter’s mistake. Janice flips out, starts calling him a misogynist with his male privilege and that he only thinks about sex. Peter seeing how Janice is reacting to his question, decides to leave her.
The next day the police shows up at his apartment to arrest him, because he is accused of rape. Peter spends two weeks in jail and gets raped there multiple times. When he goes to court he says that he didn’t rape Janice and she admits it. The charges Peter was facing are dropped and Janice walks away without any charges. When Peter returns, his boss tells him that Peter is fired because of false rape charges, and Peter struggles to find another job because he was accused of rape. Do you see what’s is wrong with this story?
Firstly, Peter was raped and no feminist gives a damn about it, no equal rights for him. Secondly, Janice destroys Peter’s life with false rape charges and she isn’t charged with anything, even though she falsely accused somebody of raping her. And these situations are occurring worldwide and no feminist cares about them. All they care about is dominating men. Okay, not all feminists do that, but those who do are what’s known on the internet as feminazis.”
I’ve left a comment on this dude’s blog, I’ll reprint it here, because somehow I have this feeling that it might not clear moderation:
[ed:I haven’t the intestinal fortitude to reproduce this dudely masterwork in full, open a new tab to read side by side if you really need to see the amazing thesis for yourself.]
“Is feminism any good or is it rotten to the core?”
Starting with fallacy of the excluded middle. Banner start. I’m guessing hilarity will ensue.
“As you may already know, feminism is a civil rights movement, fighting for women equality, so that women could be equal to men in all aspects.”
Dictionary definition of feminism. Par for the course.
Feminism is the struggle by women to be liberated from the oppressive patriarchal structures of society. There can be no ‘equality’ in a societal structure that is inherently unequal.
“Imagine a situation.”
Hypotheticals? Wow, this usually indicates that a fine beating, of the very first order, on arguments made of straw is about to happen.
“Peter asks why isn’t feminism called equalism instead if the movement is fighting for equal rights among females and males.”
Is it Janice’s fault that Peter doesn’t know jack-shit about feminism. It isn’t, of course, but if we know anything about how patriarchal society works it is this: men blame women for men’s problems.
Let’s see how that goes…
“Peter spends two weeks in jail and gets raped there multiple times.”
Name the problem: Male violence expressed in the form of rape.
Who do we blame? – Janice, obviously. (???)
Rape is under-reported in society because of the systemic barriers in place that make it difficult if not impossible for women to seek justice when they have been raped. (rainn.org for statistics and facts about reporting rape)
I see you have the words ‘enlightening’ and ‘science’ in the title of your blog. Let’s see if you live up to the name. The above link is to a specific page, but judging by the content of this post, most of the rainn.org’s site is required reading.
“And these situations are occurring worldwide and no feminist cares about them.”
As you stated earlier this is a hypothetical (‘imagining’ in your words) – by definition these situations are NOT occurring world wide.
“and no feminist cares about them. All they care about is dominating men. Okay, not all feminists do that, but those who do are what’s known on the internet as feminazis.”
So certain feminists should be associated with Nazi Germany. How refreshing that you’ve Godwin’ed yourselfin only the second paragraph of your fact laden treatise.
So please explain how these feminists are like the National Socialists in Germany in WW2, I eagerly await your learned response.
“Well they don’t want equal rights among females and males, they want to dominate men.”
Which feminist works say this? Please show us the evidence of your assertion, otherwise you are just talking out of your ass.
“Because the judge wanted to keep a public image of him not being a misogynist, because giving her a normal sentence would receive feminazi hate.”
Please show us this case, and the judges ruling – specifically the part about the judge bowing to the ‘feminazi’ pressure, otherwise you’re making shit up and calling it ‘factual’.
“So she was cat called only 0.5% of all her walk time. That is so low that you couldn’t even misogyny.”
Well thank you helpful dude for quantifying for women what is harassment and what isn’t for women. It is not like women should do that for themselves considering that they, not you, are the targets of street harassment.
“She was wearing provocative clothes and she, although I love my girlfriend and I don’t find anyone else attractive, biologically speaking she was attractive. So no wonder she got attention.”
This, this right here is, is in the most classic sense blaming the victim. How amazingly stupid do you think men are – it would seem that you think that men cannot act like decent human beings because of the clothing choices of women.
Okay hard question time – what should women wear so they won’t get attention? Or did you realize that the only necessary variable for catcalling is being female. See Stop The Catcall for evidence of this.
“The third variable is biology. Males are high-wired to be attracted to attractive women and due to our society’s set standards for males, males have to approach the females to set up a family.”
So males get act like shitty human beings because biology. Males, as you describe them, seem to be pretty stupid and weak – if they cannot even control themselves when they see a woman.
“Or do you know the so called wage gap? People are saying that females earn only 0.77$ for every 1$ a man makes. Do you really think this is true?”
It is true. Here is the evidence for the wage gap being true. I’ve noticed that you just say a lot things, and then fail to provide any evidence that the things you are saying are true. This is pretty much as unenlightened and anti-science as once can be. Perhaps you should consider changing the name of your blog to better reflect reality.
“In our society you have really great double standards – everybody is into stopping female rape, but male rape is “non-existent according to feminazis,”
Citation needed, or its bullshit. Guess which one I think it is. (hint: the smelly option)
“There is no male privilege but there is a female privilege.”
Yep, women sure are privileged. They are raped more often, get paid less, suffer more domestic abuse, are aborted more world wide, have strict rules governing their reproductive health, are less educated, make up the majority of the world’s poor.
But I guess that all doesn’t matter because of ‘female privilege’. Right on dude. Right on.
Need the heavy duty facepalm on this one…
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