A Conversation About Some of the Goals of Gender Critical Radical Feminism
December 6, 2016 in Feminism | Tags: Gender Critical, Goals, Radical Feminism, Unreasonable | by The Arbourist
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6 comments
December 6, 2016 at 6:25 am
roughseasinthemed
No.
An important word that doesn’t exist in patriarchy.
No means no?
No means … what I want.
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December 6, 2016 at 9:51 am
Swarn Gill
I agree that the original poster’s assertions are unfounded, but I am curious about the examples posted by the responder. Given how often rape happens in men’s prisons do we also not have to worry about certain men being housed with other men? Given that that the CDC found that 1 in 6 boys (compared to 1 and 4 for girls) are sexually abused shouldn’t we be just as concerned about abuse of young boys? Many of the examples used by the responder were incidents that occurred well before changes to bathroom laws, and represent people with a long history of sexual violence that is independent of how transgender issues were taken into consideration by law. I looked through several of the articles linked. For instance Paul Witherspoon committed his acts of child abuse well before hormone therapy and well before any bathroom laws. Somehow he managed to commit his child abuse against girls without any help from bathroom laws. Do we really think such people who want to commit a crime like that won’t find a way to do it? It seems like most of the issues that are discussed by the responder are about people who would be dangerous under many scenarios regardless of the law.
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December 6, 2016 at 10:12 am
The Arbourist
@Swarn Gill
The onus then would seem to be that men should be organizing, campaigning, and pressing for better conditions for men in prison – if that is a priority for men.
And how would the elimination of patriarchal notions about ownership, gender, and consent not both help women and men?
So if access becomes easier to marginally restricted spaces becomes easier will the rates of violence go up or down?
So do we make it easier for them or harder? The difference of being able to say you don’t belong in this space versus quiet uncomfortable acceptance is a significant one.
Keep in mind, the very existence of MTT (male to trans) preying on women is often not acknowledged by many transactivists and by much of the media. I would put forth that male socialization, behaviour and incidents of criminality do not change, despite any notions of identity claimed on their behalf.
The narrative that MTT ‘just want to pee’ and no harm to women ever comes from this notion is quite firmly embedded in trans-ideology. Unsurprisingly the female narrative opposing (the important things men have said) is marginalized, ignored, and shamed/’called out’. Effective feminism -by which I mean Radical Feminism- has always brought the ire of men for challenging their assertions and claims. This issue is no different.
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December 6, 2016 at 12:14 pm
donesoverydone
Reblogged this on stop trans chauvinism.
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December 6, 2016 at 12:18 pm
roughseasinthemed
@ Swarn
WATM?
One of the issues with reporting sexual abuse, whether rape or other assault is that statistics only ever show those who reported it. I’m sure you know why women do not report rape and assault.
In the uk, figures for child abuse show 7% of girls abused and 2.6% of boys. But, when one person comes forward, others gain confidence to say ‘me too’. We currently have a spate of young boys abused by football coaches.
None of this is right. Obviously.
But, what is under discussion here, is fear and a safe space to change, to go to the toilet, to change a tampon, whatever. Things that women don’t want to share with men.
This is, after all, a post about gender critical feminists. Not about MRAs.
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December 8, 2016 at 7:52 am
Muffy
Swarn Gill doesn’t lock xir doors because burglars can just break a window!
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