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Trying to discuss political issues in today’s social climate can be difficult at times. Much of the difficulty lies with how many on the progressive Left have a priori determined that their position is the only possible position to hold on any particular issue.
Reading the Parents With Inconvenient Truths About Trans substack led me to this exchange between a woman who is grounded in reality and set of friends that follow the gender identity religion.
“When yesterday at lunch Monique brought up the issue of males in women’s bathrooms, I said I didn’t want any man in the stall next to me, no matter how he identifies. Women have a right to dignity and privacy, and that’s an assault on both. When Monique then asked if I’d have a problem with Lisa in the stall next to me, I had to answer truthfully: yes, I’d have a problem, because Lisa is a man. Although neither of you had put me on the spot before in a way that required me to state this explicitly, my answer shouldn’t have surprised you.
Monique suggested that my unwillingness to share intimate female spaces with men, whether or not they mimic women, is the same kind of bigotry as refusing to share intimate female spaces with black women. Gary appeared to agree. But the unwillingness of any woman to give up her rights is not bigotry.
Men and women segregate themselves from each other when in the toilet for good reasons. It appears to be instinctual because it’s true of males and females in far-flung societies.
It’s neither liberal nor tolerant to demand that women abandon their rights and their boundaries to accommodate men who would like to be thought of as women. Making such demands is, instead, authoritarian. It’s also not within the rights of any third party to give any man access to women’s and girls’ private spaces.”
The text in bold is the argumentative dead end so many Progressive choose. I think it is because they have imbued their position with a sense of moral correctness that they are so willing to shut down conversations rather than listen to those who hold differing points of view.
Obviously it is a false equivalence to try and compare men in females spaces with black females in female spaces. Completely fallacious. Yet, the frequency in which this sort of tactic is employed speaks to how effective it is in shutting down dissent in social situations.
There are no easy social solutions to this other than to point out the inaccuracy of their argument, and restate your thesis and ask them to address the question without the implicit moral assumptions.




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