The DWR Religious Disservice – Christian Hatred and Bigotry on Display:Jessica Ahlquist

The fundamental point I see is this… People in our culture make the mistake of misunderstanding the purpose and type of government we exist under. It is good reason the checks and balances that were set into place, and that is to help insure that the “whims of the majority don’t infringe upon the minority”. It is to insure that in a changing culture that the constitution has weight to maintain it’s structure against the changing definitions of the world around it. People often assert that this is “One nation under God”, and this was actually not the case. We are a secular representative democracy, not a theocracy. However, it has become quite common that people have asserted that the first amendment is the freedom to religion, but not from and that is an abuse of it’s meaning. The separation of church and state protects against one religion oppressing another which if permitted can fundamentally degrade order into chaos in a civilized society (I.E. The middle east, specifically Gaza, the West Bank and Israel).

It is possible for corruption to occur, and of people to attempt to contort laws to mean things they do not. However, you can not use them as an example to stereotype, and like them you have the right to stand up against laws abridging your freedoms just as they do to petition their government about their grievances. In the end it was in the spirit of our system to make a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. However, you will never get a majority on this and with the right to bear arms in the constitution you’ll likely never see that right disappear because people will fight for it (Encouragement for you to play a more active role in political change). Having a system of checks and balances in place doesn’t prevent change from occurring but gives an orderly process by which to make change occur, and hopefully in the end continue to protect the rights of everyone, not just the majority. That is the spirit of our constitution, not to be an immoveable concept but one that evolves with proper measures to ensure everyone is heard. However, it isn’t liberals you should worry about, but corrupt and powerful people who seek to contort the system for their benefit and the detriment of others.

All civic minded people want for an end to corruption, and end to the bottomless coffers of corrupt lobbyists who don’t have our interests in mind, and a check and balance system to prevent our government from being wrested away from us by the person with the biggest pocket book. The blogs on this site prove that this is their intent, their goal. Liberals aren’t trying to “take” your rights, corrupt politicians are and it’s not the Liberal minded people responsible for the measures you complain about. The corrupt lobby of our government has none of our best interests in minds and a few “Liberals” are hardly characteristic of all, as that would be an over generalization. Falling for such a generalization would be equivocated to the fallacy of a false dichotomy, something the religiously minded right wing are prone to. Progressive Christians also aren’t characteristic of what their Holy Book actually says, and such hate is actually taught by the Holy Bible itself. The bible refers to even Progressive and Liberal Christians as “Lukewarm”. Christianity like all Abrahamic faiths is corrosive and violent in nature and origin.

You can’t site the “Goodness” of progressives of Abraham Religions when they are actually not adhering to the language of their own holy texts. People who commit hate crimes in the name of Christianity usually have many specific verses that they can site that tell them to commit them (the example above, and the countless hate crimes against GLBT people in the name of God, the murders of Islamic women who speak out, et cetera). Religion is mythology, something our race should start to outgrow the need for. On top of all of that, you can’t say that the “God” of these children isn’t “telling them to do this”, because your Holy Bible contradicts this and actually endorses their behavior (Even Jesus, because he came to reinforce not to overturn the previous laws of God, according to his own words).

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I don’t care about your “Philosophy will fail you without God” bullshit. Abrahamic Religions facilitate a lot of bad, bat shit crazy shenanigans. Religion doesn’t make rape or murder okay, any more than non-religion. However, you won’t find Atheist Killing people for Atheism, raping them, enslaving them, dehumanizing them or otherwise for the sake of some Holy Book which happens to endorse it. There is no Atheist Handbook that endorses this junk, that tells us to eat babies, or facilitates any of it that we somehow follow, however your book tells you to enslave your neighbors, sell your daughters, and kill homosexuals just to name a few.

However, it is unfortunate that so many people are deluded to believe it (some of them against their will prior to being old enough to decide on their own). I am not against belief. I am against backwater, bronze age fiction that elicits violence against outsiders, and derides reason and sanity. Deism, okay in my book, Christianity not so much. Atheist (many of them) will admit they don’t know without evidence to substantiate their claims about God, Christians will claim they know without evidence and use all efforts to circumvent their own reasoning to believe it, and attempt to do it to others. Plain and simple.

I am not anti-religion. There are plenty of religions I love, and wish them the best, Abrahamic faiths are not one of them. They make war amongst neighbors, elicit violence, and most of all they reflect the “Very Human Created” nature of their deity, designed by the blood thirsty cultures of their authors which is all the more reason why we should reject them out-rightly. Remember, I used to be a Christian and I know what that book says and I find it revolting. My favorite religions would be Taoism and Buddhism, because they don’t want to kill me for being an atheist. The path to ethical enlightenment is a personal choice not a heavenly ultimatum.

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Not true… Atheism is a default position of non-belief based on a lack of evidence not a culture, and not something that needs to be taught… And as science comes in more to shrink the “God of the Gaps” more people will become Atheist as there will be no need for a God to explain the universe. There is no long term disadvantage, but indoctrination is a problem with Abrahamic faiths. And yes, and secular society would be able to base their position on evidence, rather than the whims of a deity or personal preference so much bigotry would disappear entirely. Sure their may be atheists who are bigots, but a secular society would work more methodologically and future generations already having evidence at their fingertips would more readily accept it than older generations. Evidence comes forward all the time, Christians deny it in favor of the bible, and Atheists embrace it assuming it meet the standards. Atheism isn’t a culture, and everyone’s atheistic ideas differ and are diverse in background. Religion may have once bound our awkward peoples into solidarity, however as a race we will grow beyond a need for fiction, fairy tails, and mythology to accomplish that.

Science proves that it will come to pass as it has over the last 100 years started transforming. Cultures don’t transform overnight. Atheist define and find values from evidence, so long as that is preserved your point is moot. We learn more with each successive generation about morality, about the nature of our very existences that are both measurable, real and quantifiable. Atheists have science, and technology to pass on, which wouldn’t exist if we hadn’t overcame oppressive religious regimes and cultural thoughts. Our legacy is far more enlightening, and gives far more to future generations than religious superstition. Our legacy, the legacy of reason is all around you, plain to you eyes to see, and does not work in mysterious ways. All that is around you that we have created is a product of human reason. Religion is a non-sequitur to progress as it by its own nature baffles reason, the force that creates change. Human history was shaped by man, not by God; though a few older tribes ascribed the actions of men with God’s will.

God’s will is the lazy man’s way to shirk responsibility by redirecting it to an unprovable, unknowable, and untestable hypothesis about the supposed nature of a fictitious supernatural entity. You might as well say “The Devil made me do it”, however, pardon us if we laugh at how foolish it would be to act that way. All one needs to do to shed religion is learn to reason, learn to expect evidence, and learn to test rather than assume on faith alone. Atheists are humans, we have children, we pass on reason to them rather than superstition as well as all the science, evidence and technology we create as our race advances. Atheists have evidence which ultimately is far more real than anything faith can provide. The universe is far more majestic and wonderful without “God Goggles” on. Atheism is the default because we wait for evidence before making a conclusion rather than making risky leaps of faith that blind us to the jeopardy of chance. A wise man always questions himself, and evaluates, and a foolish man is always assured of himself and never evaluates and never sees the pitfalls right in front of him. The days of religion are indeed numbered, or of religion in any modern sense.

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