The argument depicted below seems to sum up the problematic nature of the truth claims that trans-activists make. To analyze these claims precisely and coherently and refute them seems to get one labelled as a ‘transphobe’ (for disagreeing with worldview of someone else). Sorry, but that just doesn’t wash.
If we are to maintain any dedication to reasonable argumentation and reliance on evidence based decision making then there should be nothing wrong with the position Auntie Wanda takes. Win people over with strong arguments, not strong pejorative labels meant to silence them.
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Mystro
The Arbourist
Dead Wild Roses 
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December 13, 2016 at 6:48 am
roughseasinthemed
I’ll confess I am bemused. In more than 50 years of life I have never considered what ‘being a woman’ ‘feels like’. It doesn’t feel like anything. It just is. If someone male wants to be GNC, fine by me, just that, wearing a frock, nail polish, make-up and long-haired wigs does not a woman make. Or liking pink. Or wanting to be a nurse not a doctor because we are nurturing not intelligent.
I thought we were making some small progress before the trans lobby came along and started defining womanhood for us all. And reinforcing the worst gender stereotypes ever.
. Of course, just like there are female penises and MTT like to pretend to have periods. But women can’t talk about periods and pregnancy because it is discriminatory.
This whole thing has spun out of reality.
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December 13, 2016 at 10:28 am
abutterflysdiary
This pretty much sums it up. Trans activists are rejecting definitions that are based on objective criteria, such as biological sex. They are replacing these definitions with vague, ill-defined concepts that are ultimately meaningless. Frankly I’m not sure that they understand what they’re saying or that they can see how absurd their position is. They don’t understand that the issue is not with femaleness or maleness, but with the imposition of femininity on females and masculinity on males. Something radical feminists have been pointing out for decades. It is ridiculous to change words so they no longer reflect reality and/or argue for a lifetime of potentially harmful medical intervention, when all we need to do is let people be and drop these roles/expectations that are imposed on us based on our sex.
This exchange shows that it’s impossible to have a reasonable discussion with most trans activists and their allies. It’s one thing having your own ideology, it’s another altogether to smear, insult and attack anyone who disagrees with you, and for good reasons. Talk about double standards: it’s fine for them to demand we comply with them while they attack us for pointing out our embodied lives are not simply a feeling.
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December 13, 2016 at 10:29 am
abutterflysdiary
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December 13, 2016 at 10:38 am
The Arbourist
@RSitM
It is troubling to say the least because so many feminists have bought into the trans-ideology.
Being inclusive with individuals whose ideology is diametrically opposite (gender identity/roles are awesome!) to what feminist struggle is about (liberation from patriarchy).
I’m completely for the rights of transfolk, but not at the expense of women and their struggle.
The notion that centering females in feminism should not be a contentious issue, yet it is; and because it is, speaks volumes to the amount of ground needed to be regained in the struggle.
Erasing the female experience in society, and thus female oppression, does not help women out in the slightest.
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December 13, 2016 at 10:54 am
The Arbourist
@abutterlfysdiary
The worst part of it is that some of this fuzzy vagueness is being translated into *Law*. The negative ramifications for women will be significant. :(
Take confusing post-modernist shite, stir in white male privilege, a dash of mansplaining and poof you have an ideology that mostly amounts to this – “you have to accept these conditions, based on nothing more than “because I say so”. It does not compute.
It should not compute.
The patriarchy does such an amazing job of erasing the struggle of feminists from history. So must so that each generation of women must relearn what the struggle is under patriarchy and how to fight it.
I hypothesize this is why the struggle moves at such glacial place. With no common historical background to draw from, all the learning needs to happen again – and all before coming together, speaking and organizing to affect change in society.
More to the point, if the lessons of the Second Wave had been more thoroughly preserved and codified the struggles we have today would be markedly different – because as you said, radical feminists understood that gender was a hierarchy and the best thing to do is tear that shit down, not take on ideological stances that reinforce it.
Male dominance when challenged always replies like this.
Not a more patriarchal double standard can be expressed as ‘obviously’ the male point of view/feelings *must* take precedence over the experience of those who happen to be female.
As always, IBTP. :(
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December 13, 2016 at 12:16 pm
Godless Cranium
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