It is going to be very disheartening for people who bought into the puberty blockers as a solution to their ‘gender dysphoria’ realize that they were the first test subjects in a long term trial. What they were told, and what will happen are likely to be two very different occurrences.
“When ECRI was contacted by this author and asked why WPATH guidelines were not included, and why the Endocrine Society guidelines did not have a scorecard rating, they responded in an email, saying that the reason the Endocrine Society guidelines did not meet inclusion criteria to be rated was because “Only a few of their recommendations were supported by the systematic review; the majority were not.” The reason WPATH was not included, ECRI stated, was because the guidelines were over five years old, and “did not use a systematic review to process”.
They did not use a systematic review to process.
ECRI
A search of the Canadian database yielded no results for transgender treatment. When contacted, Joule’s response was “In order to be included in our database, all guidelines have to be either developed or endorsed by an authoritative medical/healthcare organization. Neither the WPATH nor the Endocrine Society guidelines on transgender care have been endorsed by any Canadian organization(s) and therefore are not included in our database”. A search of the GIN library also yielded no results for transgender care.
Neither the WPATH nor the Endocrine Society guidelines on transgender care have been endorsed by any Canadian organization(s) and therefore are not included in our database.
Joule
Guidelines over five years old are at high risk of becoming clinically irrelevant due to new research findings, or changes in patient populations. Given the rapidly changing epidemiology and treatments in transgender care, seven-year-old guidelines are severely outdated in this field. One case in point is that when the WPATH guidelines were published in 2011, natal males were the primary group presenting to gender clinics in adolescence, but now males have been eclipsed by natal females 3 to 1.
Research on male adolescent clients cannot be generalized to females, an age-old fallacy in medicine. This makes the entire recommendation section for adolescent transgender care in the WPATH SOC dubious at best, irrelevant at worst. Investigation must be undertaken to determine why a new cohort has developed, and whether this group can be included in guidelines that were developed for a group with different histories and possibly different etiologies.”
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To their credit, WPATH does not say anywhere in the SOC that treatment is proven safe and effective. Instead, the overall message in the guidelines is to urge physicians to follow the patient’s wishes only, putting aside scientific evidence and ethical delivery of care.
The concept of an innate gender identity is unproven, unverifiable, and does not even have a clear definition. In the same spirit of historical psychiatric misadventures, somatic treatments are being prescribed for a psychologically based identity disorder. How many vulnerable children, adolescents and young adults will be harmed before we realize that history is repeating itself.
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February 29, 2020 at 6:22 am
tildeb
“In fact, it can be argued that WPATH (World Professional Association for Transgender Health) is activist-led rather than evidence-led, as witnessed at their conferences. Their guidelines are just following what is being performed in gender clinics…”
And so the closed circle of rationalization based on ideological assumptions immune from arbitration by reality is complete. We call this kind of trust, confidence, and belief FAITH. Transgender ideology is a faith-based and not evidence-based ideology that when acted upon is causing real harm to real people in real life. And, just like critical non believers in the religious arena, critical non believers of transgender ideology are equally vilified for their blasphemy by the Faithful and their eager virtue signalling, apologetic, mewling, invertebrate collaborators who simply do not care about the harm.
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February 29, 2020 at 6:43 am
tildeb
I have long been bewildered how any gay or lesbian person whose social acceptance of normalcy is based on the immutable sexual preference with which they have been born can turn right around and support the incompatibility of transgender ideology:
“The assumption that thoughts and feelings are unchangeable, while the body should be changed, is the paradigm that is assumed in this document with no rationale given. A lifetime of off-label medications and multiple surgeries are assumed to be preferable to the option of considering treatment to help people be at peace in their natural bodies.”
This is the same reasoning used in Iran to physically alter gays and lesbians by surgery into the opposite sex. Why this doesn’t scare the shit out of the Lesbian-Gay community is a modern marvel of compartmentalized thinking – the same thinking used forever by the religious hypocrites who also say they also respect reality… like scientists who wish to have their woo-cake and eat their reality-cake, too.
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February 29, 2020 at 6:52 am
tildeb
“Carl Heneghan, editor-in-chief of the British Medical Journal, and Professor of Evidence-Based Medicine from the University of Oxford performed a review of the literature for puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones in children and adolescence. He concluded: “The current evidence base does not support informed decision making and safe practice in children.”
Who cares about evidence when an ideology must be implemented? After all, the victims are only children and who cares about them? Certainly NOT transgender activists…. so we’d best side with the activists to avoid blasphemy.
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February 29, 2020 at 7:00 am
tildeb
“(From) the AMA Journal of Ethics: “Transgender medicine presents a particular challenge for the development of evidence-based guidelines. First and foremost, data on health outcomes in transgender medicine are currently limited to retrospective studies, case series, and individual case reports.”
Gee, I wonder why… when doing this kind of research immediately casts one as an alt-Right bigot and -phobe who needs to be summarily fired from whatever blighted institution the researcher works… and almost always is fired and/or dismissed and/or is professionally censured because of the invertebrates who oversee these professional faculties and colleges. What we have left is circumstantial first-person testimony. Yup, transactivists who are just like those who are visited by God, have His words whispered in their ever-so-special ear, and can then insist that they alone speak authoritatively on His behalf and will brook no criticism from reality of their pronouncements.
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March 1, 2020 at 4:23 am
violetwisp
@tildeb Oh, where to start with the nonsense in your rants. This one is most absurd:
“This is the same reasoning used in Iran to physically alter gays and lesbians by surgery into the opposite sex.”
You’re taking the example of a religious state where same sex relationships are punishable by death. No choice, no exploration of options. Trans people are now choosing in many western countries the most comfortable way for them to live. It’s fairly new and while it works out for some, it may not for others, and the next generation will learn what works for them. In most cases, the results of hormones and surgery seem to work better than a lifetime of trauma and depression. There is nobody forcing people to do anything. There are loud voices, very loud voices, expressing views from all sides, so no-one are not shielded from other opinions or living in fear of death (from the state at least).
You and Arb are the ones most like the Iranian state. You believe you know what is best for other people and you’re hellbent on making their lives misery if they don’t agree with you. At least you only have the ‘power’ of words on obscure blogging platforms.
And Zande, if you pop by, I see you liking these turgid, hate-filled posts. Tildeb has fallen way into the bog, but you’re better than this!
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March 1, 2020 at 6:04 am
tildeb
“The assumption that thoughts and feelings are unchangeable, while the body should be changed, is the paradigm that is assumed in this document with no rationale given.”
This paradigm IS what Iran uses to justify their use of force to impose a choice between sex-change operations or death, VW. The assumption is that attraction to a male means one must be female so, because the attraction is set by feelings, the body should be changed to accommodate them. So, yes, this is the SAME mode of thinking used by those transactivists who advocate for sex change FOR CHILDREN to deal with their emerging feelings. You simply don’t care that in many cases parents are not to be informed by public policy, that schools are compelled to go along with the ever-changing pronoun preference and actively pursue transactivist ‘solutions’ like chemical treatments without any informed consent by those legally responsible for those children. You don’t care that a vast majority of these children who undergo these mandatory interventions wish they had not after their tumultuous teen years. You don’t cared about any of that. Your sole concern is to pretend those who dare to criticize these deplorable, ignorant, and abusive tactics used on children because of successful transactivist bully lobbying are the real problem and that by criticizing these practices we are causing harm. You’ve got it exactly backwards in your faith-based assumption that all things trans are good and all things that dispute that are causing misery. You are wrong.
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March 1, 2020 at 6:36 am
tildeb
Yes, I’ve fallen way in to the bog, as you put it, if respecting what’s true is the bog. I stay true to principles that respect people and reality. I do not wrap myself in an ideology as you do and insist reality must conform to it; rather, I respect reality enough to want evidence from it to arbitrate the various concerns. This exactly what is targeted by transactivists and their collaborators as a deplorable, intolerant, bigoted principle to follow.
And that’s the problem here, VW. You don’t disappoint. Reality is not being given any say or weight but is dismissed out of hand by transactivists and their willing co-conspirators who already know – like you – what is the case and are absolutely intolerant of anything or anyone who dares to challenge your ideology regardless of evidence from reality they bring forward.
Nope. They’re just ‘bad’ people.
The bog is your playground and you intellectually flop about it flinging whatever mud you can at those who commit blasphemy and tell you why you should not presume it’s the best place to dwell.
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March 1, 2020 at 12:58 pm
violetwisp
“your faith-based assumption that all things trans are good and all things that dispute that are causing misery.”
You’re confused. I don’t think for one minute that all of anything is good. I think people are making difficult decisions about complicated lives based on the best evidence available at this point in time. If you have specific evidence that will help people make these decisions, then by all means share it with relevant decision makers and leave them to it. What I see on this site, however, in Arb’s posts and your vicious rants, is a an obsessional anti-trans bubble accusing everyone of idiocy and evil, and mocking people trying to find a way to comfortably live their lives.
Your understanding of the human experience is sadly narrow in focus, and I’d suggest you lock your vitriol up in a cupboard, and accept that pronoun use and toilet use, like everything else in existence, are evolving. I know it’s difficult to wrap your arrogant head around, but your experience of life does not encapsulate any Truth. If you’re spending any of your time spewing hatred on vulnerable groups of people, something has gone wrong. You seem to spend a lot of time doing just that. And as for Arb …
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March 1, 2020 at 2:08 pm
tildeb
I would not call the transactivist lobby that successfully shuts down sex-based research, successfully defunds sex-based researchers, successfully implements public policies like turning schools into gender tanks, that successfully changes laws and instructs judges to impose punishments on those who say and do anything contrary to the tans ideology, who successfully vilify real people in real life who do not reject evidence-based contrary information, who successfully get most people to self-censor to protect themselves from insult, abuse, and legal ramifications for supporting sex-based evidence, a “vulnerable group of people”… by any stretch of the imagination. I would call them what they are in fact and deed: bullies because of the history of their successful efforts vilifying people who are trying to collect sex-based evidence about gender dysphoria, vilifying the institutions and schools who fund their research, and successfully have collaborators replace any fact-based evidence-adduced criticism of their ideology with the smear campaign as hate speech and bigotry against a victimized group.
You’ve proven this point here.
On the one hand you pay only lip service to policies and actions “based on best evidence available” but then wave away all criticisms that demonstrate how this is not possible because of intentional suppression of information contrary to the ideology. This makes you either a knowing hypocrite or an unwitting fool.
VW, go READ what Arb has linked to, if that’s not too much to ask. Try if you are able, to articulate what the argument is against your own position. It explains in detail why this ideology is a bias and reveals the fact that this is what ‘informs’ today’s public policies… policies, I must say, that really does real harm to many thousands upon thousands upon thousands of real children, real people, including those who suffer from sex-based dysphoria. Why this suffering of truly vulnerable people doesn’t raise a concern to you is worth some very serious self-reflection before rushing to condemn anyone who points this out to you under the banner of “spewing hate.” It’s not spewing hate: it’s criticizing the evidence-free ideology that fuels the harm and those who help to implement this harm. It’s respecting what’s true, that there is a very real problem caused by the very real actions of the transactivists and collaborators who are aiding and abetting the creation of very real victims from very real vulnerable people with this reality-denying ideology. You’re not helping to rectify the root of this problem of trans ideology in public policy; you are facilitating and defending it.
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March 1, 2020 at 2:54 pm
Virginia Howard
Thanks for this, Dead Wild. I’m anguished that a 17 year-old relative wants a double-mastectomy via a gender clinic.
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March 1, 2020 at 6:17 pm
tildeb
17. major surgery. Good grief.
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March 1, 2020 at 8:38 pm
The Arbourist
@Virginia Howard
Greetings, Arbourist here. Thank you for stopping by, I hope that you can find the appropriate psychological help for your relative. This uncontrolled medical experimentation on youth is placing many lives in danger.
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March 1, 2020 at 9:20 pm
The Arbourist
@VW
I am fully in favour of letting people choose the way they want to live, including the transgender community.
The long term follow up study of transsexuals undergoing sex reassignment surgery seems to be at odds with your conclusion.
“Results
The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8–62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.
Conclusions
Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.”
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
In actuality, the more militant trans activists are defunding Women’s Rape Relief Shelters, deplatforming Women who understand biological material reality and sex based oppression.
The militant TRA’s are doing their very best to silence women speaking about their experiences in society and how much of the gender self-id ideology is corrosive toward female rights, boundaries, and safety.
Unfounded, baseless accusation. The staple of people whose arguments do not hold up to scrutiny.
Not believing in the new gender religion is most certainly not ‘knowing what is best for other people’. I believe in scientific fact and arguments that are supported by said facts.
This is a fact – Human beings cannot change their sex. – Therefore males can never be females. The definition of woman: Adult human female. Therefore trans women are male. Males do not belong in the current female only spaces we have in society, nor should they have access to female services and the sex based protections that have been fought for by feminists in our societies.
Are you hellbent on making Jehovah Witnesses miserable when you choose not to believe in the viewpoints they espouse?
Absolutely JZ, you need to distance yourself from reasoned discourse, adherence to biological reality, and effective feminist theory/praxis. Please hurry over to the side that wishes to put male feelings of gender ahead of the physical safety, boundaries, and rights of girls and women. It’s only right…
Respecting biological reality is not hate, nor is realizing the fact that in a patriarchy the class of men oppresses the class of women, whether they happen to be in lippy and frock, or not.
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March 1, 2020 at 9:44 pm
The Arbourist
I bring light to, and use this platform to defend female rights, boundaries, and safety in society. If defending females in society is anti-trans, then trans activism and trans rights are anti-woman.
There is nothing evolutionary about compelled speech. Nor is there anything evolutionary about letting men into female only spaces to satisfy and validate their personal subjective gender identity. It is a direct assault on female boundaries in our society and it is the latest patriarchal assault on the rights of women in our society.
I’ll quote Cherry Austin member of the Feminist Resistors network – “If defending female autonomy means being ‘anti-trans’ to you, then you’ve just clarified that your ‘pro-trans’ objective is the subjugation of females. Sorry to say this applies even if you think of yourself as a feminist. Lose the idea that female boundaries are up for debate. “
Haven’t stopped defending and advocating for female rights in society. It’s never been a popular position, necessarily so being that we still do exist in a patriarchy.
So if you can come back with an argument that doesn’t centre around hurt feelings or being mean please do so, otherwise, you’re just wasting our time and valuable electrons.
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March 7, 2020 at 8:20 am
violetwisp
“The high number of satisfied respondents found in the present study is comparable to earlier studies (Bouman et al., 2016; Buncamper et al., 2015; De Cuypere et al., 2005; Horbach et al., 2015; Lawrence, 2003; Lawrence, 2006; Nelson, Whallett, & McGregor, 2009; Rehman et al., 1999; Smith et al., 2005; Weigert et al., 2013) and emphasizes the effectiveness of gender-affirming procedures.”
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2017.1326190
And accounting for any figures that show trans people don’t magically fit into mainstream society after gender reassignment, we have from the UK National Health Service:
“Despite high levels of personal satisfaction, people who have had genital reconstructive surgery may face prejudice or discrimination because of their condition. Treatment can sometimes leave people feeling:
– isolated, if they’re not with people who understand what they’re going through
– stressed about or afraid of not being accepted socially
– discriminated against at work”
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/gender-dysphoria/treatment/
Now, I know you are both talented at scraping up dirt and flinging at trans people. I know you well enough to know that at times you use calm language,verging on reasonable sounding, and reference plausible looking facts. But I also know you come at this with a loaded and hate filled agenda against trans people, based on the inconvenience their existence is to your Theory of Life (Arb), and based on your inability to view things outside strict boxes you have created to explain life to yourself (Tildeb). Once you adopted these stances, it’s easy to retreat into you echo chambers and whip up fear mongering stories with other you share your apparent disgust. And we know it’s hate that drives your agenda because that and your disgust come flying through at some point in almost every carefully constructed post – usually in the comments.
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March 7, 2020 at 9:13 am
The Arbourist
@VW
Did you just need the fainting couch today, or the pearls as well? :)
Honestly, the moral indignation routine is getting a touch old.
The tide is turning, organizations like the A Woman’s Place UK and LGB Allianceare at the forefront of protecting and fighting for the rights of women and same sex attracted individuals.
You continue to use your moral disgust and accusations of ‘hate’ because you don’t have an argument that will hold up to scrutiny or reasonable critique. I’ve been through the arguments many times and it always comes down to insults and ad hominems. (You haven’t used the ‘wrong side of history’ chestnut yet, but I’m pretty sure it’s waiting in the wings).
We live in a society that is biased against the class of women.
Women have fought for and won sex based protections and spaces because of the male violence and oppression directed at them.
All men, regardless of how they personally identify, belong to the class that potentially oppress and harm women.
Therefore, men do not belong in female only spaces.
I would fully support services and spaces for individuals with gender dysphoria, this however is not the case. Trans ideology demands that females give up the spaces, rights, and boundaries they fought for and established in patriarchal society. It is this rampant colonization and erasure of women and their boundaries in society is which I campaign against.
Furthermore,
Biological sex is immutable, human beings cannot change sex – therefore one cannot identify into or out of an oppressed class. Recognizing this fact is not hateful, it also has the benefit of comporting with material biological reality.
So, if you find the defense of female rights, boundaries, and ultimately female safety in our societies distasteful, well, I really can’t help you there.
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March 7, 2020 at 9:21 am
tildeb
AAP – Dr James Cantor, Journal of Sex and Marital Therapy:
“The research is clear: the biological basis of sexual orientation is in the brain and not in social construction. It is disappointing a professional organization like the American Academy of Pediatrics was (is) making a lay person’s mistake (believing trans kids were facing only conversion therapy). The citations used (in the change in AAP’s policy for the treatment of gender dysphoria that the NHS is using here but opposite to the policy of ‘Watchful Waiting’ recommended by research for best practices) was when they began slipping from careless scholarship into something that starts to look much more like an active misinformation campaign. The research used simply did not say what the AAP claimed they said. Professionals in medical establishments have and are constrained by political considerations and ideology (rather) than by best clinical practices.”
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March 7, 2020 at 9:31 am
tildeb
VW, when you – a True Believer – equate enunciated and relevant biological facts as synonymous with transphobic ‘hate’, you are rejecting any means to be rational when speaking of sex-based versus gender-based medical intervention. In the same way, a True Believer is not going to be rational when speaking of biological facts versus creationism as synonymous with creationist ‘hate’ if such facts are first considered anti-theistic hate. You’ve left the reasonable and rational discussion forum altogether (because facts no longer matter and what is considered true must align FIRST with your True Belief) and entered the revival tent of gender fluid woke ideology.
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March 7, 2020 at 9:35 am
violetwisp
@arb I’m not clutching pearls for the sake of it. My point is that you are not coming at this from an unbiased analytical position. You start from a position of hate and gather information from there to suit your conclusion.
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March 7, 2020 at 9:43 am
violetwisp
“if you find the defense of female rights, boundaries, and ultimately female safety in our societies distasteful, well, I really can’t help you there.”
I’m suspicious of anything that purports to defend the rights of one oppressed group or minority at the clear expense of another. I’m suspicious of a branch of feminism that spends more time attempting to demonise a marginalised group consisting of 0.05% of the population, than it does fighting for equality in the main picture. Let’s concentrate on defending female rights, boundaries and safety where they are most typically under attack – from heterosexual cis-gendered males. This obsession of yours is unhealthy and impractical – a complete displacement of feminist resources.
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March 7, 2020 at 9:49 am
violetwisp
“You’ve left the reasonable and rational discussion forum altogether (because facts no longer matter and what is considered true must align FIRST with your True Belief) and entered the revival tent of gender fluid woke ideology.”
Not in the slightest. I’m open minded about it all, and leave it to qualified health professionals and trans individuals to make choices they believe will allow them to live their difficult lives in some comfort. If society can change so that they don’t feel the need for medical intervention, that would be amazing. But who knows what the future holds. What I’m doing here is pointing out your bias, nothing more.
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March 7, 2020 at 10:43 am
tildeb
Yes, it’s my bias that has male rapists and child killers transferred from an all-male prison to a female prison to be housed with incarcerated female victims of rape. It’s my bias that has pulled public funding from a woman’s rape center because they would not allow a bearded male in combat boots from being admitted under the guise he felt like a woman. Yes, it’s my bias that is defunding sex-based research departments and laying off sex-based researchers. It is my bias that is turning dozens of girls at a single elementary school to suddenly suffer from Sudden Onset of Gender Dysphoria and be directed by the school and imported transgendered ‘experts’ to start testosterone therapy… without the parents’ knowledge or consent.
VW, your brain is broken here. It’s simply repeating a mantra that the problem is with those who point this out… much like a religious wingnut who chants verses of scripture when reality does not comport with their beliefs. You are an ideologue, plain and simple. You would probably nod your head in agreement that it’s reasonable, rational, and perfectly fine to go along with the announcement found in the Guardian that a trans man gives birth to a non-binary person’s baby with female sperm donor. That’s not tolerance, VW: that’s gibberish. Your ideology harms real women in real life with real harm and calling those who point this out as haters and bigots filled with bias does not change the reality of harm you are helping to promote and protect.
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March 7, 2020 at 3:28 pm
The Arbourist
@VW
Men comprise roughly half of the population. Men are certainly not marginalized by women.
I agree. Women’s spaces should be female only, and men should not be allowed into them. Prisons and Rape Crisis centres, as tildeb mentioned are at the forefront of this fight.
It comes down to whether you wish to prioritize the feelings of a small population of males or the safety of all the females that have to use those formally sex segregated spaces.
Gender ideology is just as insidious (or perhaps even more so) as religion. People are losing their positions in academia and the workplace for asserting basic truths such as the fact that human beings cannot change sex.
The
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March 8, 2020 at 8:15 am
violetwisp
@tildeb My brain isn’t broken on this. I’m following the emerging understanding of sex and gender and how structures in society impact on these, without hatred or paranoia. Here’s some reading for your binary brain on the intricacies of biological sex: https://twitter.com/RebeccaRHelm/status/1207834357639139328
And here’s a quote from the judge in the well publicised case of someone losing their job over this:
“I conclude from … the totality of the evidence, that she is absolutist in her view of sex and it is a core component of her belief that she will refer to a person by the sex she considered appropriate even if it violates their dignity and/or creates an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment. The approach is not worthy of respect in a democratic society.”
Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Now, while I’m having loads of fun over here with two men mansplaining to me why I don’t understand who can belong to my oppressed section of society, I think I’ll give up on you for now. At least if someone stumbles on this toxic post and comments by Tildeb, they have some food for thought on other ways to view this topic.
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March 8, 2020 at 8:58 am
The Arbourist
@VW
Still need to see the article that says humans can change sex.
Also, today I am identifying as a woman. You have just misgendered me and that is a literal act of violence. You need to stop picking on vulnerable minorities with your cis-splaining and transphobic bigotry. Educate yourself! (:>)
Please also see the following threads where other biologists and others confirm that indeed sex is a binary – https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1233299010456174593, https://twitter.com/TriciaFrasman/status/1006161802823159809, https://twitter.com/PankhurstEM/status/1219662007911288839, https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1124406797916409856, https://twitter.com/wet_hen/status/1213130009814036485, https://twitter.com/StoatlyL/status/1207665276940148738 .
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March 8, 2020 at 3:07 pm
tildeb
Qualified health professionals? You wave them away en masse and support defunding sex-based research and firing sex-based researchers, replacing them with gender studies grads and transactivist mouthpieces in the name of censoring ‘hate speech’. How convenient for you!
The latest ‘health professional’ paper you will no doubt provide as ‘evidence’ of your open-mindedness regarding ‘health professionals’ rather than biologists claims birth certificates and not millions of years of sexual selection produces sexual dimorphic bodies. Yup birth certificates causes the binary sex-based state humans exhibit to near unanimity. The article is called Sexual Dimorphic Bodies: a Production of Birth Certificates by Lena Holzer. Yup, every biologist is wrong but Lena is right. Now, you can’t get more open minded than that, can you, presuming as you do that the studies required to support your transactivism requires you to omit almost all knowledge from biologists in yoiur rush to replace them with ‘health professionals’ that are not themselves fully aligned with your defense of all things transactivists claim must be true for their ideology to align with reality: just ignore the reality bits.
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March 9, 2020 at 3:08 pm
tildeb
Arb, this is what I have just written to my MP:
I am gravely concerned about the inclusion of gender in this proposed Bill that criminalizes conversion therapy.
Gender-based scientific research is starkly insufficient and lacking biological knowledge compared to sex-based research. Sex-base research is currently under attack by gender identity ideologues driving researchers out of the field and closing facilities offered by universities. I have grounds to properly fear that this well-intended inclusion in this Bill will be successfully used by gender identity ideologues and activists to threaten those who criticize the role of gender identity as it now stands, criticism like questioning the safety of female inmates from sexual assault by fully intact male inmates – some who have killed children – identifying as women (a deplorable allowance that is currently in place by misguided federal policy), criticism of male encroachment into female spaces like rape centers and domestic abuse shelters whose public funding is stopped when they deny fully intact males from admission, criticism of the encroachment of fully intact males into dominating female sports and using a convenient switch in gender identity to gain the financial rewards and professional advancements from competition, criticism of fully intact males bullying and driving out of business those who provide female only services like waxing. And the list goes on and on and on. You’ve heard these cases. You stay silent in public but surely you must say something in caucus!
By inserting gender identity into outlawing conversion therapy – an unsuccessful therapy intended to alter biologically driven sexual preference for same sex to the opposite sex which sex-based research shows us is both harmful and ineffective – you are enabling ideologues of gender identity politics to not just displace females from female safe spaces with the permission of the legal code (gender advocates can threaten anyone who disagrees with legal censure under this proposed Bill) but gain special access to influence and direct prepubescent children to begin physiological and chemical therapy – in many jurisdictions without the consent or even knowledge of parents – whenever the child indicates any gender questioning – by threatening legal censure of anyone who dares to intervene… including parents!
This Bill is a green light for those who wish to advance gender identity over, and in place of, compelling sex-based scientific research and psychiatric best practices such as Watchful Waiting. The science is being driven underground while the ideology is becoming law!
Why so many politicians agree with these ideologues that biology magically ends at the neck and gender identity takes over, is a modern mystery but by enabling gender ideologues the legal power to suppress criticism in the name of either hate speech or partaking of illegal conversion therapy is a legal and ethical travesty waiting to happen, a travesty any academic who investigates this issue with an open mind and concern for what is true in reality should not endorse.
Please seriously reconsider the inclusion of gender in this Bill.
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March 9, 2020 at 3:33 pm
The Arbourist
@ tildeb
That is a cogent letter that outlines the problems with C-16 as it currently stands.
Might I have permission to repost it publicly as a template for those wishing to express their dismay with the current legislation?
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March 9, 2020 at 7:50 pm
tildeb
Of course.
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April 1, 2020 at 3:12 pm
violetwisp
I just feel like I’ll go with the World Health Organisation over your Twitter bubble links: https://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html
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April 1, 2020 at 5:36 pm
tildeb
2 things: the first is that with research you’ll find there is little correlation between chromosome abnormalities and transgenderism as it is sold today. That over 99% of humans are either XX or XY means we are talking about a binary sex. That’s reality.
The second is that you obviously missed this: “Gender, typically described in terms of masculinity and femininity, is a social construction that varies across different cultures and over time.”
Gender varies because of…. whatever. Be whatever gender you want for as long as you want and change whenever the urge hits. That’s fine. The problem, VW, is when activists and their collaborators try to abuse gender identity (and the fluidity it contains) to mean sex-based. That is a lie. That is a straight up, undeniable, counterfactual lie. It is not true.
And so when female issues like reproduction and prison and rape centers and women’s shelters are submerged and supplanted by men in the name of their ‘gender’ rights, then that lie is being institutionalized and legalized and this is wrong. This is a direct attack on females and their ‘competing’ sex-based rights, rights that are founded on this almost universal binary sex reality.
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April 10, 2020 at 2:25 pm
The Arbourist
@VW
If you are really that keen on centring men in your feminism(?), please feel free to continue.
The struggle to defend and maintain hard fought for female rights, boundaries, and safety will continue within the bounds of effective feminism.
Thanks for stopping by. :)
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