One needs to just to watch the frenzy in the North American media whenever Israel is negatively portrayed. Our institutional blindspots are sacrosanct and should be above reproach. When other countries do this we are understandably peeved, but do we appreciate the irony of the situation? China certainly does.
“When a US delegate once confronted a Chinese diplomat about Beijing’s uncompromising support for Pakistan, the Chinese reportedly responded with a heavily-loaded sarcastic remark: “Pakistan is our Israel”.
But judging by China’s unrelenting support for some of its allies, including North Korea, Burma, Zimbabwe and Sudan, its protective arm around these countries is no different from the US and Western political embrace of Israel – right or wrong.”
Ouch. It really sucks when other people start playing by our rules.
“The New York Times newspaper said on Tuesday that the US administration is facing a “confrontational relationship” with an assertive China and is trying to respond to “a surge of Chinese triumphalism” by strengthening Washington’s relationship with Japan and South Korea.
US President Barack Obama is planning to visit four Asian countries next month – Japan, Indonesia, India and South Korea – while bypassing China.”
China is flexing its international muscle and attempting to use international institutions to do so.
“China sees value in promoting its image as the Security Council member defending the rights of the developing world, and China sees value in relying on the UN to counter US power,” said Linda Jakobson, director of the programme on China and Global Security at the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).
Jakobson, an in-house China expert at SIPRI, points out that Beijing also sees value in participating in UN peacekeeping operations “both because this enhances the image of China as a responsible power but also because it gives Chinese military experience”.
I wonder when the sudden rush back to the ‘rule of law’ will happen? I imagine when the same unlawful implements/policies the West has been using for decades start getting pointed in the opposite direction.




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November 4, 2010 at 9:10 am
Vern R. Kaine
“China sees value in promoting its image as the Security Council member defending the rights of the developing world, and China sees value in relying on the UN to counter US power”
Defending rights in the developing world? Ya, right.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21143-2004Dec22.html
Jakobson, an in-house China expert at SIPRI, points out that Beijing also sees value in participating in UN peacekeeping operations “both because this enhances the image of China as a responsible power but also because it gives Chinese military experience”.
See last link for “responsible power”. I think the real reason is the latter.
Now you’re cheering for China? Geez, Arb! ;)
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November 4, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Alan Scott
The Arbourist,
” But judging by China’s unrelenting support for some of its allies, including North Korea, Burma, Zimbabwe and Sudan, its protective arm around these countries is no different from the US and Western political embrace of Israel – right or wrong.””
” Ouch. It really sucks when other people start playing by our rules. ”
Ouch. You have got to be kidding. Just because the Red Chinese are fellow Atheists, that is no reason to accept their moral equivalences.
You are the only one who felt the irony. None of the rest of us went ouch.
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November 6, 2010 at 9:57 am
The Arbourist
Informative article Vern. A quote from it:
In an interview in Sudan’s capital, Khartoum, Energy and Mining Minister Awad Ahmed Jaz praised his Chinese partners for sticking to trade issues.
“The Chinese are very nice,” he said. “They don’t have anything to do with any politics or problems. Things move smoothly, successfully. They are very hard workers looking for business, not politics.”
Obviously a lie, but descriptive in the way we sometimes view our ‘benevolent interventions’ in other peoples countries and economies. Should we be appalled at the human rights abuses, of course. Shocked? The answer is unfortunately, no.
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November 6, 2010 at 10:29 am
The Arbourist
You have got to be kidding. Just because the Red Chinese are fellow Atheists,
Full marks for poisoning the well Alan, but seriously, when other powers begin to flex their imperial muscles should we really be surprised and shocked?
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November 6, 2010 at 10:35 am
Vern R. Kaine
“Sticking to trade issues” may simply mean that the Chinese ignore the bloodshed and corruption within that Ministry. I’m sure the “nice” part is a lie, as you say.
Lumping a lot into one here, but I think the business vs. human rights line in other countries is one that can be difficult at times to walk, in part because of the scarcity of resources, and also in part to what degree one can decide to impose their own values on that country. The US has certainly done it’s share of that around the world, but also gets just as much criticism for pulling a “China” and not getting involved at all. Where’s the practical balance? Imagine China coming to Canada and dictating the minimum wage or working conditions.
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November 6, 2010 at 10:46 am
Vern R. Kaine
Surprised? Nope! That’s what superpowers have to do. There always has to be someone at the top of the food chain, and it always has to be maintained by either force itself or the threat of force.
I think a better question is whether there is any superpower other than the U.S. that has a better human rights or environmental record that the U.S. does, or allows for greater bottom-up strides in that direction.
Check out Russia’s charity problem (http://themoscownews.com/society/20100927/188070348.html?referfrommn), for instance. I can’t imagine China’s system is much better.
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November 6, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Alan Scott
The Arbourist,
” Full marks for poisoning the well Alan, but seriously, when other powers begin to flex their imperial muscles should we really be surprised and shocked? ”
Who is surprised or shocked ? Not I. I am aware of the actions and motivations of world powers .
I just do not accept your argument or for that matter, the Chinese argument that Pakistan is the moral equivalent of Israel. You and your friends, the Communist Chinese may view it as an equivalent client state, or vassal. Even in that context, China is making an over simplification.
The US is pretty much Israel’s only friend in the world. I don’t know that Israel plays the US off against it’s enemies. Pakistan certainly plays everybody off against each other. Al Queda is played against us. We are played against China and Russia.
I have to ask. Why do you hate us ? Why is America the bad guy to you ? If we fall, who will save you from the next Adolph Hitler or Bin Laden or Napoleon? Oh no, I broke your Hitler rule, didn’t I?
Oh I have to ask, since China is morally no worse than the US to you, what is your take on Tibet? Since you hate all religion, what do you think of the Dalai Lama as a leader in exile and religious figure ? Are Tibetans who believe in him just suckers?
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November 11, 2010 at 9:56 am
The Arbourist
? If we fall, who will save you from the next Adolph Hitler
I’d have to say Russia, as in WW2, the USSR did the majority of the fighting an dying that eventually set the stage for allies to win the war.
I have to ask. Why do you hate us ? Why is America the bad guy to you ?
Why is an honest evaluation of the U.S’s actions considered hate? Is it is as simple as ‘cheering for the home team’ bias? We’re good and they are evil?
The US marks a high point of human freedom and the democratic spirit. However the US is a imperial power with an ever expanding corporatist oligarchy that does not represent the ideals the country was founded on.
A thoughtful examination of the foreign policy record can only be good for the US as people will see what is being done in their name and hopefully stop the destructive policies that hurting the US and the rest of the world.
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