I had a sense on this one, as I was typing my reply to the burning stupid present on this site, that my commentary might not be published. Given that dudes, with what they deem to be important opinions, tend not to like being shown how audaciously wrong they are. I took it upon myself to save a copy of my reply. Much to my surprise(?) my comment did not make it past moderation, and thus, because of the supernovae grade idiocy on display, the commentary in question became a prime candidate for a RPOJ post.
This fine individual, I think we’ll call him Bobby-Joe, has some strong words for the female folk and how they need to behave to make his man-wishes come true and for society to continue to function. BJ’s notion of bodily autonomy and women’s rights fits nicely into to Dark Ages – I’m sure he and the New Pope-pitude could hate-fap for days about the nefarious wimmenz and their evil plot(s) to destroy mankind.
This RPOJ post is a little on the low-hanging fruit side because the exceedingly insipid nature of the argumentation, but hey, even dour feminists need some R and R once and awhile. So let us explore, together, the deep wisdom BJ expounds but cowardly won’t defend in his little corner of the Internet.
Let us begin:
“I have been looking for something to write a blog about and why not this(not naming the topic, in well, your topic sentence isn’t usually a good start BJ, unless of course you are deliberatly being obtuse to increase the tension, not that you have much choice…). It seems to be in my newsfeed a lot lately. And is definitely something (oooh! this may actually be purposeful) that cannot be ignored. You would not ignore a serial killer would you(Drama!! No, says the careful reader, we certainly would not!)?”
I believe women have the RIGHT to end their pregnancies (Wow! A firm statement of support for women and their autonomy, hurrah!), I also believe they have the RIGHT to be arrested and tried as a murderer for doing so (Oh, so close! Throwing your hat in with the crackling anal-fissures known as the forced birth movement just destroyed your credibility!). Just as anyone has the right to do whatever they want in this country (It would be nice if you would exercise the right not to act like a privileged, ignorant, misogynist bastion of douche-a-tude.) but they also have to face the consequences (and yours will be the upcoming excoriation of all the stupid shite you’ve written and posted on the internet.) for their decisions in this country.
I find the entire abortion thing hilarious (because the discussion surrounding the rights of women are of a particularly jocular nature…but full marks for setting up and then slam dunking the incredulity fallacy.) For a country trying to turn to “science” for answers, it is completely ignored when it comes to unborn babies (Let it be noted here that BJ does not have even the faintest idea was Science is, how to use it, or what it actually says on the topic of abortion). Science (One might, if not dramatically ignorant, delimit “Science” down to “Biology”) proves they are living things, unique, individuals (err…actually no, we haven’t been able to nail down when individuation happens) before the time that is deemed acceptable to end their lives in the womb. But for a society saying (BJ, speaks not only for science, but society as well – he is well and truly and expert of many, if not all fields.) to turn to science and not religion, we sure are avoiding science (BJ’s interpretation of what science “says” can be interpreted as “what my inept seedy little mind shits out”) as much as possible when it comes to this. Why? Because it supports what “religious freaks” have been saying.
At this time, I’d like to state that BJ neither cites, quotes nor accurately depicts anything resembling science, biology or, to be painfully honest, fact. Most of what follows is just the sketchy byproduct of the 3 or so neurons knocking around in his braincase. The RPOJ demands accuracy and completion, so gentle reader, we must continue fastidiously forewarned with this fabulous foray into fail.
This would be the same for everything if they could somehow get it to fit (so many pronouns, what do they refer too?), but with this, they cannot. Therefore, they have to ignore the science (‘Science’ being what I’ve recently pulled out of my ass and declared to be “fact“). If they looked at the science, abortion would be made illegal (“Science”, Binkey,…errr…BJ… says nothing about the moral/legal/ethical nature of abortion. Science deals with empirical knowledge, and that is it. It would be nice if you stopped pretending to be the spokesperson of “Science” or anything important for that matter.) and those undergoing the procedure or those doing it, would be arrested and put into prison for murder (because I understand what women have to go through during pregnancy and I ‘get’ the choices that women have to face when family planning, like totally. I’m not just some wanker with a fatuous opinion…) Murder is not acceptable in any case, only sometimes it is deemed as self-defense (contradicting yourself in the same sentence – I’m gobstruck by the amount of noise your intricate neural net must produce, maybe we can distill and bottle it as intellect depressant) but this cannot be claimed as such.
There is no reasonable cause to kill an unborn baby (ectopic pregnancies and host of other medical necessities be damned! Not to mention that whole treating women
as people thing.). People can throw whatever emotional traps (that strange sound eminating from women demanding the right to their bodily autonomy. BJ, ensconced deep within your fortress of ineptitude, it might be valuable to consider that radical notion that women are people too.) forward to make you cry before giving in, but it does not change the facts (Fun Fact: everytime BJ says something is a fact, it provably isn’t! It is like some perverse episode of Jeopardy.). If I said this five-year-old child is going to make these parents broke in ten years as a hungry, rebellious teenager, does that give them the right to get rid of the child (If I said that your ass was actually your hat, would you be an ass-hat? – Of course you would, making irrelevant analogies firmly plants you in the realm of asshatery!)? I hope most people would say no, and be in outrage at the thought it. This is my thought (and what a mighty singular thought it was) when people say, oh, the parents cannot afford to have a baby, they will go broke, and they will be homeless.
[Skipping a paragraph because I’m running out of synonyms for “stupid”]
By logic I hear from pro-murder people (It is nice that you admit that logic is on the side of women, but then you just say inane things. In my original response I said that you mischaracterized the pro-choice position, but now in sombre second thought we can safely deduce you’re just confabulating a nice straw argument to bash the crap out of later.), is that the simplest solution to this is to stop of sex (Like the ides of March….beware of the “stop of sex”!!/!). If you want to end the problem before it becomes one with abortion, why not go one-step back and stop the process from happening in the first place (because sex only for procreation is such a realistic solution? *headdesk* )? If you are not on the page of being ready to have a child, do not initiate the process.
I cannot forget to address the emotional rape (ah because emotional arguments from women should be ignored amirite? You, Sir douche-canoe, do not get to evaluate the arguments of women because, as demonstrated in your writing about “science”, the whole day/night duality problem seems a bit too much for you to handle.) situation they throw in anti-murder people’s faces. They say should it be allowed for women who are raped and get pregnant (Doubling down and further traumatizing rape victims by then forcing pregnancy is atrocious.) First I want to point out all this is an emotional statement (Ah , yes, because rape is “emotional” and thus unworthy of your sage words) that has nothing behind beyond the emotional message in it. First, let us throw some hard numbers out there. I will make the number higher so I am not inaccurate. Less than 3 percent of rapes get the woman pregnant (what, not citing your sources, kinda makes me think your full of crap, statistically speaking and otherwise.). That is a high number; it is much lower than that. But beyond the numbers, what does that change? Does the baby somehow become some sort of a mutant because of how it was conceived (erasing the woman from the equation does not make it OK, it is her body being used and abused and she has a right to say what goes on inside of it.)? If the mother has it, will she be deemed some sort of witch? No, a baby is a baby. The mother will love it the same (speaking for all women again eh? Your misogynistic drivel speaks for only yourself and most certainly, not all women) and whoever thinks it is some sort of demon are not in their right mind to make someone question whether or not to have such a baby.
Should I even get into the physical damage abortion does to the mother? Not only physical damage, but mental damage.(Maybe you should “get into it” because back here in reality, the mental effects you claim happen, don’t. And consider that getting an abortion is safer than giving birth. I hate to break your smarmy aegis of ignorance, but repeating anti-choice propaganda earns you nothing but disapprobation and ridicule from me (and most rational people I hazard to guess).) On a smaller scale in Canada, the psychological affects abortion has is devastating (see also pathological dishonesty). If it was not a living thing, why would there be such an effect on them? Maybe it is the human body parts that are removed or the fact they just allowed someone to kill their unborn baby and possible end the chance for them to ever have children again (Maybe you haven’t really thought this through and you are inflicting your vapid assertions on the internet just-for-funsies).
I am just a guy talking about this (it wasn’t obvious at all), so most pro-murder women will probably shove that down my throat. But the facts (has your irony meter borked out yet? I’ve made a small monument to mine, said a few words, it was nice, but not trashy, ya know?) do not lie. I use to say birth was the number one cause of death; well I am pretty sure abortion is a close second, because these babies do not get to be born, before they die. The life YOU take for granted, is something they never get to experience. Yes, this is an emotional statement. But you know what, mine is actually backed up by facts (good night everybody!!).






12 comments
March 18, 2013 at 10:41 am
john zande
Great post.
Off topic, PLEASE venture over to this assclowns blog. He needs to “meet” you, badly.
http://quinersdiner.com/2013/03/16/hard-words-from-the-new-pope/
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March 18, 2013 at 10:56 am
syrbal
:::::eyeroll::::: Do none of these asshats EVER look beyond their own nose? There ARE countries where these allegedly great ideas ARE the public model. We, as a nation, usually decry their behavior and have held wars in several of them. And no, they do not resemble happy-joy-joy-ville.
Of course, when ANY man tells me he thinking fucking ONLY for procreation is a good idea, hey, I just ITCH to make him lock up his Johnson to make him LIVE that one out in full. How many kids do you want, asshat? You think you can afford three? Ok, you have two…hit that bed once more and then we cut it OFF, ok, cause hey, Dude, you have procreated enough.
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March 18, 2013 at 7:55 pm
bjh
Wow. The stupid makes my head hurt.
And I thought I had heard some pretty dumb arguments from Dawin O’connor…
This fella out-performs even him!
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March 19, 2013 at 1:04 pm
The Arbourist
@JZ
Oh wow, he is certainly deep in the fold now isn’t he? Similar tropes, the atheism is a religion bit, First Cause malarky, smarmy glossing over the atrocious nature of the bible. High octane ignorance.
I’ll see what I can do.
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March 19, 2013 at 1:07 pm
The Arbourist
Dudely opinion needs no empirical evidence, as clearly, it stands on its own merit.
Funny how its all fine and dandy to be legislating the behaviour of women, but to do that to men…*broken record sound*… that is beyond the pale. Same dude probably thinks that we live in an egalitarian society…
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March 19, 2013 at 1:14 pm
syrbal
I live in the hope, not of conventional religion, but of an overarching reality that sometimes shakes me by the scruff of my neck…that these types of people so happy to “legislate” the lives of females, WILL find out what egalitarian really means…somewhere, somehow, sometime.
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March 19, 2013 at 1:19 pm
john zande
Champion! I see he’s already moved on to attacking Planned Parenthood. This guy is the epitome of all that i loath in religion. I think i kept my cool, though ;)
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March 19, 2013 at 1:30 pm
The Arbourist
@JZ
Well I just weighed in on religion as his godbag of a wife was getting a little too holier than thou for me and needed a verbal reminder of the high fantasy she’s peddling. If the comment gets through moderation, we’ll tackle the enslavement of women next. As usual, I kept a copy of my reply, so the RPOJ might get another work out sooner than I anticipated.
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March 19, 2013 at 1:33 pm
john zande
:) I’ll keep an eye out for it. I’m actually having it out with him right now on his next post. Thanks for jumping in. People like this need to know there’s a wall waiting for them.
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March 19, 2013 at 2:12 pm
john zande
Damn! I just read your reply. Sweet Valhalla, I think that’s the best response i’ve ever seen! Brillant!!! :)
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March 19, 2013 at 7:48 pm
bjh
I find it interesting that, from what I have read, abortion and contraception were never really ‘on the radar’ until the women’s liberation movement picked up steam.
Until then, women were the property of men – and the husband decided if/when his wife would get pregnant and how many children she would have.
But, with the feminist movement, women were finally able to make decisions for themselves – and contraception and abortion were integral to that.
So it should come as no surprise that slut-shaming is really at the heart of most anti-contraception/abortion rhetoric. It is anger over women daring to have the same freedom as men.
P.S. To back up my point, abortion and contraception are not outlawed in certain Islamic theocracies – because the man decides, not the woman…
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March 20, 2013 at 4:35 pm
The Arbourist
@BJH
Well said. :)
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