Have you ever met someone who initially, seems intelligent, but then opens his mouth and forcefully repudiates that notion? Well, that isn’t even close to the case here. The cranial-anal link here is strong with this one, so strong in fact, that stupid flows freely from almost every paragraph, every sentence – hell – every word screams, “I’m a vacuous cretin whose greatest achievement to date has been walking and chewing gum at the very same time.”
The Red Pen Of Justice has a savage wiggle on for Lucien-Maverick and the stupid shit he regularly defecates onto the wordpress #gamergate tag. In this post he manages to get just about everything factually wrong and manage to come off as a massive douche exemplifying how not to be a decent human being.
I know you are excited as I am to delve into this dark hole of stupidity and misogyny, so we shall not tarry any longer!
First off the title of the post: “Is the Puritan Feminist-Left Helping The Religious Right?”
Oh you know this is going to be good and filled with accurate depictions of Feminism. Let me assure you, gentle readers, no straw versions of Feminism will be beaten to death here…
“My cousin shared a rather interesting article with me today. It is from a VERY conservative publication called The Weekly Standard. This article talked about a concept called “Neo-Victorianism on Campus.”
Well, well, well. Using the Weekly Standard as your source already puts you firmly in stupid country. The tl;dr of the article linked is that we should be blaming women for male behaviour; case closed (you’ve been warned, the head to desk ratio is frightfully high following that link).
“In the article, they talk about a contradiction that they see on modern college campuses that plays into their hands. See, I have long made a point about how the Puritan Feminists have been making things worse for women.”
I really need to know what a Puritan Feminist is. Lucien-Maverick never really defines the term, but from the gist of what he says we can
define a Puritan Feminist as any woman who dares to curtail the power of dude-boners.
“Now I was given a new perspective.”
Is it one that isn’t maxed out on idiocy and a palatable hate of factual information?
“It’s no secret that I am annoyed by the new campaign against what these people see as an epidemic of rape at college campuses. These people are delusional, and what’s more – their delusions are working against them.”
Oh, Lucy-Mavey! You just saved this article by not turning over a new leaf. Now muffin, you are the one who is holding on to beliefs that are not based in reality.
Rape is endemic on college campus and in society in general.
1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).1
17.7 million American women have been victims of attempted or completed rape.1
9 of every 10 rape victims were female in 2003.2
“One in four college women report surviving rape or attempted rape at some point in their lifetime. These are anonymous reports on multi-campus surveys sampling thousands of college students nationwide (Fisher, Cullen & Turner, 2000; Tjaden & Thoennes, 2006). This rate has remained the same since studies in the 1980s (Koss, Gidycz, & Wisniewki, 1987).”
Looks like you’re the mayor of Wrongsville. Congratulations!?
“The article points out that whole movement for sexual liberation of women in the 60’s. It was a vibrant culture war against the prudishness of the 40’s and 50’s, running on the coattails of the larger culture wars being played out in the 60’s. This war got women to be able to be more sexually expressive.”
LOL forever. Vibrant culture war my ass. Dudes wanted and got access to women. This so called “sexual liberation” was cover for the reality of more dudes being able to dip their wicks into women without social repercussions.
Let’s be straight here, there were good glimmers for women in the 60’s, but good things started happening when women started organizing to protect themselves and promote their rights as human beings – a little movement you might have heard of – called Feminism.
“If only the women who fought those battles, who were worthy of the term “feminist” could see things now.”
Ah yes, because only with Male Approval can we identify the “true” Feminists. I’m not sure if Lucy-Mavey is being more stupid or more ignorant. I’ll let you, avid readers, choose his poison.
“With the Puritan Feminists on college campuses trying to make VERY strict guidelines and making those in positions of authority enforce them, we are seeing the liberation that so many women fought for being gradually taken apart, one rape allegation at a time. “
Whut? Are you really trying to say that codifying consent is somehow restricting women’s liberation? Why would women restrict their libert….. Oh wait…I get it now – If you replace “liberation” with “dudely access to pussy” your semantic confusion just clears the fuck up in hurry. How very noble of you and your crusade.
“Of course, that’s how it works nowadays. If a woman makes an allegation [of] rape, the Puritan Feminists and the public at large seem to take it at face value. “
Moving in this direction is a good thing considering the piss-poor conviction rates when it comes to rape and reporting rape. It’s almost like there is a systemic bias against women and their reporting of being sexually assaulted.

Hmm. The likely-hood of seeing their abuser walk free and the certainty of having their name and history dragged through the mud, women tend not to report being sexually assaulted.
“Why this is is beyond me.”
Sadly, you’re a fairly dim bulb Lucy-Mavey; this foundational truth is the cornerstone of the monument of fail you posted.
“The whole idea of “innocent until proven guilty” is gone. The article about UVA is proof of this. It’s now, “innocent until accused, which the social justice echo chamber will validate”. And if you think about it, it’s madness.”
All gone. The systemic privilege bestowed on males to rape nearly at will is in jeopardy! Who will defend this noble right?? Lucy-Mavey of course, because now his “rights” are in the cross-hair and that is a fracking big deal. (Never mind, of course, the rights of the women who have had their rights trampled on since, oh well, the beginning of civilization – oh no – we have to prioritize!)
“After all, they say that 1 in 5 women are sexually assaulted or raped. That would mean that 20-25% of women on campus are the victims of sex crimes. As my cousin pointed out, that would make both men and women very afraid of going to college, if this sort of thing was proven to be accurate.”
Women are afraid to go to on many campuses because the threat to their persons is real.
‘But it hasn’t been.’
Because apparently having a penis allows you to blatantly disregard the facts of a situation.
” The reality is that the 1 in 5 statistic is marketing. Brilliant, brilliant marketing. Something people forget is that most of the SJW women have degrees in Communication or Marketing or things like that. They know how to sell a product.”
Huh. Those communication and marketing degrees are made of pretty heady stuff. The assertion Binky makes here takes us, with certainty, into the tinfoil hat region of ‘rational’ argumentation.
“And the product here is – women are constant victims and men are bad. “
Well you’re half right, women are the majority of people who are sexually assaulted. As Rainn.org cites – 9 of every 10 rape victims were female in 2003.2 No mystery there.
“The worst part about it is that they are using actual rape victims as props in a thinly-veiled misandry campaign.”
I’m not sure how this even works, but I do get that Lucy-Mavey is blaming women for the stupid shit men do. Oh hey! Misandry isn’t a thing. It cannot by definition exist as the societal systemic nature of society inherently favours, rather than discriminates against men. See this short informative video for further elucidation.
“I find that kind of sick, personally.”
I find that making a choice between a stinking sack of shit and you Lucy-Mavey, I’d choose the sack of poo every time.
“In the end, though, there is a much darker implication. Think back to the women who fought for sexual liberation. Now, think about the women who are trying to make women constantly afraid of men.”
Women should be afraid of men as they constitute the majority of perpetrators of violence against them. Lucy-Mavey doesn’t get causation.
“Women see men as the enemy and will do whatever they want in order to punish men for whatever the Puritan Feminists say is wrong, based on a crisis that they manufactured wholesale by using real victims as props.”
Wow, this is all about punishing men and playing the oppressed dominant majority card isn’t it? Enough men act shitty within the boundaries of society, thus appearing as a real threat to women, and somehow it is a crisis manufactured by women? Lucy-Mavey certainly goes to the venerated chestnut of misogyny – blaming women for men’s poor behaviour – with rabid commitment.
“Well, to men being in the Puritan Feminist Inquisition, where they can be accused of rape, because they didn’t ask a girl for permission at every single step of the process from kissing to getting their freak on. Yes, it’s a bold new world.”
What??!? Treating women as if they were fully human and their consent is required? Unpossible!
“The Religious-right should be in awe. I kind of am. “
Actually, I’m in awe of how much jaw-dropping stupid is being put on display by you Lucy-Mavey. Your dedication to the liberation of bonerz is admirable on so many levels…
“In less than 5 years, these people have decided to roll back all the work that women who actually cared about other women worked so hard to do. It amazes me.”
Who are these women who were campaigning so vigourously for their right to be fuck-toilets? It seems that more likely that seeing that the status-quo that favours your particularly odious worldview is being rolled back a bit and rather than up and up say that, you overlay your bleatings on women that simply do not exist.
“What it all boils down to is this – these people are manipulative con-artists who are using real victims as props for their own agenda. Or, in the case of Brianna Wu and Anita Sarkeesian, they will exploit whatever controversy they can find in order to sell their line.”
Because receiving rape and death threats is “exploiting the controversy”. *Sigh*
Well, we should thank Lucian-Maverick for his important contribution(s) to the progressive egalitarian ideal.
On second thought, we should mock the glaring ignorance of this man-childe and rightly categorize his utterances as fool-fodder that can be safely ignored once properly ridiculed. Hell, lets let Willy S have the final comment on his character : “Thou are a boil, a plague sore, an embossed carbuncle in my corrupted blood.” (King Lear).
RPOJ out.





12 comments
December 9, 2014 at 5:54 am
Brachina
http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2014/12/08/the-university-sexual-assault-overcorrection-how-efforts-to-protect-women-have-infringed-on-mens-civil-rights&pubdate=2014-12-08
He’s right, people like your are exploiting feminism and destroying it from within, feminisn deserves better.
And you destorted everything he said. At no point did he say Puritan Feminism was any woman who inferes with “Dude Boners”, nor did he say anything that would indictate that. The gist was that some people are exploiting feminism to create a toxic enviroment of fear which they manipulate for thier own power. And it done at the expense of feminism, the movement for female equality and liberation.
Or maybe you use my comment as another excuse to bash liberal feminism, in favour of radical feminism.
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December 9, 2014 at 6:29 am
john zande
Ouch! Beautifully done, Arb.
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December 9, 2014 at 8:28 am
The Arbourist
@JZ
Thanks John, I have not done a RPOJ in awhile. Cathartic :)
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December 9, 2014 at 8:36 am
john zande
My eyes do light up when I see the Red Pen pic :)
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December 9, 2014 at 8:49 am
The Arbourist
@Brachina
Whu? I think what you assert may need to be backed up with some evidence, or at least an example of how I, the Arbourist, is exploiting Feminism. I’m sure that would be a fascinating discussion, and look forward to it.
Actually, everything he said was quoted. If you’ll notice, I am merely responding to what *he says*.
Lucy-Mavy didn’t actually define what a Puritan Feminist was – but according to him, these Puritans exist, and his post attacks the actions of this undefined category of feminism. It would seem this category (caricature) of Feminists exist only for him to make stupid arguments about.
Lucy-Mavy, as predicted in my very first sentence does indeed spend most of his time beating up on his fictionalized account of feminists(ism). It is as subtle as taking a dump on your supervisor’s desk as far as rhetorical ploys are concerned.
How does treating women as people = a toxic environment of fear?
Are you worried about dude approval of feminist action?
Nah. Going on what you’ve shared here has been good as is. I’m curious as to what a libfem, such as yourself, would propose as a solution to the problem of sexual assault and rape on campus, and society at large. I might have it all wrong over here, illuminate me with your analysis of the problem.
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December 9, 2014 at 8:58 am
The Intransigent One
If we just didn’t talk about rape and pretended it never happened, then women would totally not be afraid anymore. And besides, if women would just quit getting ideas in our pretty little heads like that we might sometimes not want sex with whoever wants it with us, there would never be any rape anyway. Saying no destroys the sexual revolution! Feminism should always and only be about women’s
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December 9, 2014 at 9:52 am
Brachina
It was a refernce to a radical feminism, you know full well that’s what he meant by Puritan Feminism.
And its fine to discuss rape, its a problem, no amount of rape is acceptable, the problem is making colleges out to be war zones, the 1 in 4 stat is insane, were talking war zone rates here. How many women would want to go to college facing that?
And Treating Women as people= Toxic eniveroment of fear is a red herring, no one has suggested treating them as anything else, what was refering to was making it sound like colleges are war zones of rape and the guilty until proven innocent rules which will lead to lawsuits and in time a backlash we will all pay for, not just the radical wing.
And there is a difference between talking about an issue and fear mongering. There are legitimate issues about rape on campus, but start making it sound like a crisis the real issues will get ignored in favour of the crisis, which doesn’t exist.
No one is demanding anyone have sex if they don’t want to, just that social interactions can occur in an enviroment without fear.
Btw what effect on female enrollment do you think using discredited statics like the 1 in 4 will have on female enrollment? How many women will forgo education fearing that colleges campus have war zone rates of rape? Who would feep safe?
I remember when I was in high school and more niave when I first heard a stat like that, and looking to right of me and to the left of me, and thinking shit, I’m surrounded by rapists. Not pleasant.
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December 9, 2014 at 10:17 am
The Arbourist
@Brachina
You do realize that you’ve linked to an article by Emily Yoffe right (The College Rape Overcorrection)? Emily Yoffe is also known, infamously, for an article she wrote called: College Women:Stop Getting Drunk.
You do know that Emily Yoffe is a rape apologist right? [See analysis of her apologia at Salon, Jezebel, Feministing, Yes Means Yes]
Now, you are basing your J’Accuse on an article from her? Really?
The irony is pretty thick here, and me without my lightsaber…
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December 9, 2014 at 10:30 am
The Intransigent One
@Brachina – “I remember when I was in high school and more niave when I first heard a stat like that, and looking to right of me and to the left of me, and thinking shit, I’m surrounded by rapists. Not pleasant.”
You can’t evaluate the truth-value of a statement based on its pleasantness. In case you were wondering, though, you probably aren’t surrounded by rapists. Just that men who do rape (about 1 in 20, so yes, you probably had at least one rapist classmate), do a whole lot of raping. See: http://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/12/meet-the-predators/ for a good summary of the research.
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December 9, 2014 at 10:50 am
The Arbourist
@Brachina
Now you are the one putting words in this dude’s mouth. He did not say that, nor does he have any idea, as evinced by his blog post, of what a radfem actually is.
Good question. Why with 25% percent chance of being sexually assaulted, would a woman want to go to college? It sounds like action should be taken to address this problem…
Jesus-fuck. I’m not sure which is coming through more clearly, it is a race between: “OMG! what about the men??” and “#Not all men…”.
If you take one idea from this discussion – one kernel, one nugget, one micron of new knowledge – let it be this:
***The legal system is systemically biased against women when it comes to dealing with allegations of Rape and Sexual Assault.***
[See Bill Cosby and Jian Ghomeshi as the latest examples]
In simple English – Going to the law doesn’t work very well for women.
So please, please, please don’t go down that Guilty until proven Innocent bullshite. What you are arguing for would work in a perfect world where we are all equal – where race and class and sex did not matter.
Pro-tip: It does matter, and making argument based on some sort of inherent existing “equality” is patently fucking absurd.
Getting affirmative enthusiastic consent is creating a climate of fear? HOW? Consent is the basis of treating people like human beings, if dudes are not on board with that, then they have a bigger problem than existing in a “fearful” environment.
Perhaps they will still go, but fully aware of the risks involved and perhaps with the raised awareness they will organize and demand that the current toxic rape culture that exists on campus and in society be changed.
Welcome to life as a female.
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December 9, 2014 at 7:23 pm
Brachina
The 25% number is bullshit and you know it. Read the article I posted.
As for Ghemishi how exactly is the process biased agianst his accusers, he’s been charged and lets be honest, unless Ghomeshi can pull a miracle he’s going to be convicted.
Bill Cosby on the other hand, the alleged crimes occurred too long ago for actually charges to be laid.
I’ll also point out these are only two men and not normal men either, they indictate nothing but celeberity privedge which is accorded to most celebrities and even other rich people, that’s not about rape, but an imbalance in class power.
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December 11, 2014 at 10:27 am
The Intransigent One
The 25% number is an extrapolation. Extrapolation is not the same thing as bullshit. If you have a more mathematically rigorous way of calculating a risk over a long period of time, from the risk over a short period of time, I’d be interested in seeing it. Please be sure to show your work.
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