Radical Feminism Versus Conservative Ideology

Some things that come to mind when I read your list:

1) I often see “Conservatiism” from strictly within the economic realm – smaller government, reduced waste, etc. and can forget at times that the academic definition refers actually to social views. (ex: http://www.britannica.com/topic/conservatism). I believe this is inaccurate, however. To me what people consider “Conservative”, and that list you just laid out on the right, should really just be called “Traditionalist” (vs. Progressive)? Anyways…

2) Isn’t it a bit disingenuous to include “everyone”-type objectives under a single-gender label like “Feminism”, which seems to be just a cheap ploy to try and present as larger numbers and get greater inclusion? This is a typical loser tactic that trade unions employ as well – let’s include house painters with industrial painters to try and get as many in our group as possible for greater political power, or even though you feed horses instead of people let’s try and get you in our culinary union. Looks like whoever made up this (joke of a) list is trying to do that here. And trying to position feminism as the main group or adversary against Conservatism? Good luck. Even women don’t want to be involved in this “Radical” movement (just like many black people believe BLM is a fascist joke). At any rate, it just comes across as a loser tactic and desperate attempt.

3) “It is a comparison that is floating around more and more as the po-mo authoritarian left is stifling debate and silencing criticisms of people who happen to be against their unique vision of reality.”
I appreciate you acknowledging this, Arb. The (far) right stifled debate and silenced criticisms on LGBT rights for a very long time, and now we’re seeing the (far) left do it as well, but since they want to pretend they have the moral high ground (just like the far right did), now their thuggery tactics are supposed to get a free pass. Good to call it out, and not good for society, period.

4) Besides, if we’d just let the far right speak instead of being stifled or silenced, they’d say enough to get laughed at and minimized anyways, wouldn’t they? So let them speak! What could be the harm?

… Ooops… Trump. Scratch my conclusion, but free speech still must prevail. :)

5) You say this list clears it all up. I say it clears nothing up. It starts by being disingenuous – vanilla conservatism is to be considered “radical” by default for comparison? Why isn’t it labelled “Radical Conservatism”, or doesn’t the author believe in such a thing?

It seems to try and paint all conservatives with the same brush when really, it’s the Radical ones – like Radical Feminists – who are trying to push their own extreme views onto everyone else (and yes, extreme). Just like regular feminists, I assume, regular conservatives just want to be treated fairly and have other people keep their noses out of their private and personal business?

6) Plus, lists like these conveniently leave out a few very important points where Radical Feminism has gone too far. I don’t see “Anti-free speech”, for instance, as we’ve already stated. I also don’t see being pro-theft, or against freedom, or freedom of religion, i.e. one’s right to practice their own beliefs without persecution.

I don’t see being pro-criminal and pro-rapist on that list, since Radical Feminists certainly seem to be – so long as the perpetrator isn’t white – and I also don’t see “pro-sadistic murder” on the list if one (reasonably) considers live-birth abortions to be such a thing.

I don’t see these all as being “Feminist” issues per se, but since this list wants to pretend that its side is the leader and represents ALL social issues or values, then let’s include all the very not-so-nice things its doing, too, shall we?

My point? I take issue mostly with the last comment on that list, which is that “Radical Feminists and Conservatives are complete opposites on almost everything.”

For one, like I already said – it should be “Radical Feminists” and “Radical Conservatives” if one were to be more honest and accurate here. Otherwise, however, there’s a big difference between one wanting to live their life their own way with their own views vs. trying to force those views down other peoples’ throats and I see neither mainstream feminists OR conservatives trying to do that.

If Radical “anything’s” would ever get outside of their bubble, they’d see that for the most part the rest of us different-view types actually discuss and co-exist fairly well together, and actually get things done. I work with many “Conservative” business owners who, while they might personally self-identify as Christian and certainly believe in “traditional” marriage for themselves, many have gay sons and daughters and yet are totally loving and fine with things.

In law enforcement I also work with many lesbians and while we throw jabs at each other every now and then for our different views, the fact is we enjoy great friendships. I also have to work with and deal with community liaisons within visible minority communities where I’m the “evil capitalist”, but that works out just fine, too, even with some of the stronger opinions that I hold.

All-in-all, I think lists like these (and the people who subscribe to them) with their “anti-” and “pro-” or “this is all black and white” bullshit need to be cast aside and left in the minority fringe where these losers are now and will always remain to be. The rest of us need to dive into that “grey” middle ground and leave the team jerseys in the locker room for a moment so we can solve things.

Otherwise, all we’ll be left with is a choice between Hillary and Trump.

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