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Fancy that, eh? Just another way the system known as patriarchy in our society expresses itself. Women are not listened to or taken seriously, even in life and death situations. Kinda hard to be successful in society when your words are taken, by default, as less than face value.
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4 comments
September 8, 2018 at 8:28 am
john zande
I never knew, and didn’t even suspect. You always hear men are the ‘at risk’ group.
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September 8, 2018 at 8:34 am
The Arbourist
@ JZ
Yeah, well patriarchy runs deep and always manages to brings its little buddy misogyny along for the ride. :/
And what we get is stuff like this, I’m pretty sure the male doctors are not all about the woman hate, but rather, raised in the toxic soup of society that implicitly affects their judgment in ways that have negative consequences for women.
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September 9, 2018 at 9:03 pm
Bill Malcolm
Giant step of illogic from this quoted article to a rant on patriarchy. My father was a doc then a pyschiatrist where women from all over the province used to camp out in motels to get in and see him, even phoning the house. I know, I answered the phone enough times, and we lived in a small town but those big city people sought him out. Always women callers. That was back when the province paid him a salary rather than paying though medicare, early to mid 1970s. The word gets around on good physicians.
My brother is also a doctor and just retired. I picked a female doctor well over 30 years ago after a nasty illness causing hospitalization, and when there still enough docs to go around. She was recommended by my brother, who was an emergency doctor for many years himself. He recognized competence when he saw it. And I like her and I’m now a white hairy old man. Even there at the clinic after all these years, guess who’s always late for appointments because she takes time with patients? Mine. Most of the other physicians are women but click off their waiting list while I and my doc’s other patients wait and count ceiling tiles. But I don’t mind. There are good and bad ‘uns in both male and female doctors, just like in every other field.
In the US, doctors stick their head in the room as consultants just to say they were there and collect another $200 from the insurance company. That is not Canada – their society is different and the imperatives are not the same. My mother’s last doctor was female and useless, made up her mind Mum’s condition was irredeemable, starved her for four days and yes, she died. My brother was fit to be tied but in solidarity with the breed said nothing. A medical technician in that giant old folks home quit because he told us he was so ashamed. What a great women doctor!
But to bang a gong on the thinnest of evidence and to generalize from one study in the USA to “it’s all patriarchy, folks” is abject silliness and indicative of irrationality in my view. Just squawking for the sake of it.
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September 9, 2018 at 10:20 pm
The Arbourist
@ Bill Malcom
Hi Bill,
Your first paragraph could easily be summarized as #notallmen. Which is completely true, however, when dealing with men as a class *enough* men exhibit the characteristics noted to make the issue at hand relevant.
Unfortunately, like most of society, normative patriarchal influences run quite deep in the medical professions. Historically speaking, the patriarchal tend can be fairly easily identified.
Historical references to start with can be found here, here, and here.
A more recent example is the incident in Japan at the Tokyo Medical University, the headline: “Tokyo Medical University scandal just reaffirmed what many female doctors already knew: The bar was higher for them”.
All these examples point to a substantive bias, historically and presently against women. For further reading I’d suggestA Brief History of Misogyny by Jack Holland for more insight regarding this topic.
One study was cited in the original post. There are links to three more studies in the body of my response, plus a generalist work detailing the work of patriarchy and misogyny in society.
You have provided two anecdotes to back up your claim that “just squawking for the sake of it” is what I’m doing. I’m afraid the evidence is not in agreement with your claim.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting. :)
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