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What makes our society run?  Where does one begin?

Devon Eriksen tackles that question in a though provoking and I think useful way.  During his discussion of this topic the concept of a Chesterson’s Fence is made several times and to understand Eriksen’s thinking you need to know what a Chesterson’s Fence is.

The concept of a Chesterson Fence is the notion that we need to engage in second order thinking when evaluating a problem or situation.  Or to use the original analogy:

“Do not remove a fence until you know why it was put up in the first place.”

“Fences are built by people who carefully planned them out and “had some reason for thinking [the fence] would be a good thing for somebody.” Until we establish that reason, we have no business taking an ax to it. The reason might not be a good or relevant one; we just need to be aware of what the reason is. Otherwise, we may end up with unintended consequences: second- and third-order effects we don’t want, spreading like ripples on a pond and causing damage for years.”

So, we can already observe we’ll be tackling some second and even third order thinking in Eriksen’s work.

 

“It’s time we all admitted it.

Intolerance in pre-1900s western civilization was a load-bearing structure.

  It stopped certain groups from doing certain anti-civilization things that they kinda wanted to do, because they were too busy trying to fit it, look harmless, and be accepted as normal.

  Which people? What things?

   Well, lots of people have opinions on that, but we’re not actually connected to any unbroken line of generational knowledge on the subject. Because somewhere along the line, some people learned to hack western civilization by pointing out that stereotyping, behavioral enforcement, and gatekeeping, are cruel.

  Well, duh.

   What these people are trying very hard to keep the rest of us from noticing is that civilization requires cruelty.

 Civilization is an unnatural state. It is an bubble of peace and plenty, rising through a vast dark ocean of poverty and war.

  That bubble is fragile. In order to prevent it from bursting, we have to prevent certain things from happening inside it.

  Which means we have to tell the people inside that they can’t do certain things they want to do, even though they will be sad when they don’t get to do them.

  Which is mean.

  And it means we have to keep people outside the bubble if they won’t stop doing those things, even though they will be sad if they don’t get to come there, or stay.

Which is mean.

You cannot have civilization unless you are willing to be mean and make certain people sad.

   But here’s the important question… which cruelties are load-bearing, and which are pointless and unnecessary?

  Well, we don’t know.

   And for this, I blame traditionalists. Every time they put up Chesterton’s Fence, they neglected to top it with Chesterton’s Signpost, explaining why the fence was there and what it was intended to do.

  Instead, they stamped it with one of their two rubber stamps “we’ve always done it this way”, and “the will of {insert local deity here}”.

  This makes it extremely difficult to defend the fence, and all but impossible to know which fences are load-bearing and need defending.

[Individual on twitter] appears to think that all the anti-traditionalist things she wants to do are okay, and forbidding or even disparaging them is pointless cruelty, but anti-traditionalist things she doesn’t want to do are horrific acts of civilizational destruction.

  This is, of course, selfish and hypocritical, but what I’m noticing is that everyone else is, too.

  All the way from tradcath freaks who want to ban IVF, forbid premarital sex, and kill all the Protestants, to tranny freaks who want to take your children away and sterilize them, everyone thinks their precise type and level of deviance is complete fine, and anything one step beyond what they personally want to do is anathema.

  None of this is the least bit informative about which of the rules of the old world are actually load-bearing, and right now, we are all having such fun finding out the hard way.

  If western civilization doesn’t survive, then neither does humanity, because the second world isn’t going to get us off this single fragile rock, and neither is the third.

   Which means we have some serious house-cleaning to do. We’re going to have to derive civilization-preserving rules from first principles again, because every goddamned fence the Chestertons of the world put up in the past is labelled with unhelpful bullshit explanations, and not only are some of them necessary and some of them not, but a further some of them are so obsoleted by technological advancement that they are actually now anti-civilizational forces in and of themselves.

   But what are these first principles?

   I’m sure the comments are going to contain lots of answers where people suggest their favorite thing, be it liberty, or their version of morality, or their favorite religion, but most of the things that people think of as ends are actually means.

  The end is preserving and advancing human civilization.

  To that end, I can think of three first principles off the top of my head, things that civilization cannot exist without. There may be more that will occur to me later.

   They are:

1. Investment.

   Human civilization requires people to invest effort in things. People will not do this if the results of that effort can be taken from them more easily than they can be created. This means property rights. Any civilization which does not vigorously defend both individual and collective investment will fail.

2. Fertility.

   This one is unique to humans. Our reproductive cycle is uniquely fragile, pushed to its extreme limits by evolutionary pressure to produce infants with giant heads. Women’s fertile years are such a small fraction of their total lifespan, pregnancy is so taxing and resource-intensive, and infants and children so helpless and vulnerable for so long, that the slightest interference, seemingly innocuous, can destroy a population’s ability to replace itself. Or, worse yet, it can selectively destroy the ability to replace the small sub-population of highly effective humans that drive civilization forward.

3. Innovation.

  This is the whole point. This is how humans survive, and without it, we won’t. The whole evolutionary strategy of humanity is to use those huge brains which we pay such a fertility cost to obtain — use them to understand the universe, and leverage that understanding to control it. But tech innovation relies on many factors, which is why so few civilizations are able to get their shit together to consistently do it, and show up on the beach with sailing ships, guns, and steel while the natives are still hunting deer with stone-tipped arrows.

  That’s my basic idea: for everything we forbid, and everything we permit, we need to understand how it impacts investment, fertility, and innovation.

   Because those are the things we actually need.

 […]”

I think that Investment, Fertility, an Innovation are worthy contenders as first principles of civilization, but there are more that deserve to be on the list. :)

 

 

And the rebuttal from Professor Gary Francione.  Please note this is the way you must always answer queer arguments and conclusions – the identification of where they intentionally blur boundaries or insert esoteric meanings to common words must be highlighted.

 TRAs use this argument all the time. It is a silly argument. 

  Here’s an easy rebuttal to keep in mind: Segregation and homophobia are morally wrong because they deny full membership in the moral and legal community based on the irrelevant criteria of race and sexual orientation.

   Biological sex is *very* relevant to concerns about violence toward biological females. Violence against women is a matter of their biology and the demeaning cultural ideas that women are things for sexual use by men. Because these ideas attach to women in virtue of femaleness, they do not bring in transwomen, who are not similarly situated.

   No one is saying that segregation is wrong because black people are really white people or that homophobia is wrong because all gay people are really straight. But that is exactly what the TRA claim is: separating males and females is wrong because some men are really women.

   That requires the acceptance of a metaphysical belief claim that is indistinguishable from a religious claim and that no one is required to accept in a liberal, pluralistic society.”

If you are going to do the religious thing, you may as well own it.

Case in point:NASA.

NASA stands for National Aeronautics and Space Administration. This is their mission statement from the NASA website – “NASA explores the unknown in air and space, innovates for the benefit of humanity, and inspires the world through discovery.”

Nasa is spending its resources on making pretty pictures representing questionable ideological movements.

Compare and contrast with the Chinese and European space agencies:

“A European experiment aboard China’s Chang’e 6 mission has recorded previously undetected charged particles on the moon’s surface, a catalog of which enables astronomers to better probe the chemical makeup of the moon’s regolith.

These particles, which are essentially gases excited by sunlight, were detected at the landing spot of the Chang’e-6 spacecraft in the southern pocket of the Apollo crater, which lies within the South Pole-Aitken Basin on the moon’s far side. The ion detector was the first European Space Agency instrument to land on the moon.”

If given a choice between a space sciences body that does ideological posturing and one that does; well… Space Science I know which one I would choose with regards to advancing our knowledge of the cosmos.  So let’s work backwards and use the keen example of Toaster-Fucking to illustrate why NASA is spending its time and resources on questionable virtue signals that have exactly zero to do with its stated mandate – conducting space science.

I give full credit to Devon Eriksen on “X” for the TF explanation.

“Some of you may be wondering why the entire bureaucratic caste of the USA is completely obsessed with weird sex stuff.

   Sure, we can all have good fun ranting about how insane this cult is, and watching them melt down when we leave skid marks on their sacred icons, but sooner or later, you gotta ask… why.

   It’s the toaster-fucker problem. Some of you may be familiar. Goes like this, and I quote:

I blame the internet. Back in the days before it, we had to learn to live with those around us, now you can just go out and find someone as equally stupid as yourself.

I call it the toaster fucker problem. Man wakes up in 1980, tells his friends “I want to fuck a toaster” Friends quite rightly berate and laugh at him, guy deals with it, maybe gets some therapy and goes on a bit better adjusted.

    Guy in 2021 tells his friends that he wants to fuck a toaster, gets laughed at, immediately jumps on facebook and finds “Toaster Fucker Support group” where he reads that he’s actually oppressed and he needs to cut out everyone around him and should only listen to his fellow toaster fuckers.

     Apply this analogy to literally any insular bubble, it applies as equally to /r/thedonald as it does to the emaciated Che Guevara larpers that cry thinking about ringing their favourite pizza place.

     But the toaster fucker problem doesn’t stop there.

    Because every social group has an axis of prestige. They have to compete with each other for status somehow. That’s what humans do.

   And in the toaster-fucking group, the axis of prestige aligns with fucking toasters.

   So first they compete to see who can fuck the most toasters.

   Then, when that is saturated, they one up each other by being most open with the general public about their toaster fucking ways.

  Then they make toaster-fucker pride t-shirts and hats and bumper stickers.

   Then they move on to bragging about how they sneak into other people’s kitchens and fuck their toasters, too, and swap tips for how to introduce kids to the joys of toaster-fucking.

    But it doesn’t stop there, either.

    Pretty soon normal people, who ten years before would shrugged and said “that’s weird”, are now sick of toaster-fucker flags everywhere and their kids being told to fuck toasters by sickos, and now they’re going to burn every toaster-fucker flag they see, and Florida just passed a law requiring you to be 21 years old with proof of ID to buy a toaster. And Utah has banned toasters altogether and the Mormons have stopped even eating toast, bagels, waffles, or any other heated bread product.

   But it doesn’t stop there, either.

   Because a few toaster-fuckers get beaten with fence posts by people sick of hearing about toaster-fucking, and other people, who didn’t see or hear the toaster-fuckers’ prior behavior, say “holy shit, toaster fuckers really are oppressed”. And they decide to become “toaster-fucker allies”, despite the fact that they haven’t the slightest real interest in fucking any toasters themselves.

    But it doesn’t stop there.

    Because toaster-fucking has become a sacred cause, it must now must compete with other sacred causes for the minds of highly programmable non-player characters, and there are clashes in the streets between the Toaster Fucker Pride March and the Stop Raccoon Shaving protests.

   This is what “go outside and touch grass” really means. It doesn’t mean that plants magically cure insanity, it means go encounter randomly selected people who have nothing to do with you other than geographic proximity.

   The purpose of this is to remember what normal people are like, and what normalcy is.

   It’s not that normal people don’t do weird things. Maybe they like their pancakes with ketchup. Maybe they consider midgets to be the height of sex appeal. Maybe they never wash their socks, but just throw them away and buy more instead.

What makes normal people normal is that they keep that shit to themselves when it isn’t relevant.

  Like when you’re an institute for space exploration.

  Not toaster fucking.

  Space exploration.

  Remember?

Our institutions need a serious wake up call to help them “remember” what they are supposed to be about.

Seems magical enough to me… :)

Yep, no one in society gets a pass from being critiqued and their actions in society being observed. The transgender cult’s sacred status has crumbled in Europe but remains mostly intact here in North America. That status needs to be removed at once and the light of honest inquiry and discussion needs to shine on transgender ideology.

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