
This is why people call part of the Left “Looney”.
There is no current, direct evidence from official U.S. government channels suggesting an intention to annex Canada. However, there are several historical and contemporary discussions and actions that have fueled speculation on this topic:
Historical Context: Historically, there have been moments when the U.S. considered or discussed annexing parts or all of Canada, notably during the War of 1812 and in various post-war planning scenarios. For instance, the U.S. had plans like “War Plan Red” in the 1930s, which included strategies for dealing with Canada in the event of a conflict with Britain.
Recent Political Rhetoric: More recently, comments from U.S. President-elect Donald Trump in 2025 have stirred debate. Trump has suggested using “economic force” to make Canada the 51st state, mentioning this during a press conference and on social media. This rhetoric has been interpreted by some as serious intent, while others see it as negotiation tactics or bluster aimed at influencing trade or other policy negotiations.
Public and Media Reaction: Posts on X and articles from various news outlets have discussed these comments, with some expressing concern over U.S. intentions. However, these are often framed as speculative or as reactions to Trump’s statements rather than evidence of a formal policy.
Legal and Practical Considerations: Legally, annexation would require constitutional amendments and referendums in both countries, processes that are complex and politically unfeasible without mutual consent. The practicalities of annexation, including military and economic implications, are also significant deterrents.
Canadian Response: Canadian leaders, including Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, have strongly rejected these ideas, with statements indicating no possibility of Canada becoming a U.S. state. This reflects a strong national sentiment against such a move.
While there is no concrete evidence of an active plan to annex Canada, the historical interest, coupled with recent provocative political rhetoric, keeps the topic in public discourse. However, without a formal policy or legislative action, these discussions remain speculative or part of political posturing rather than actual policy intent.




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February 19, 2025 at 6:24 am
tildeb
Here is some very early polling data. Note the difference between age cohorts. That’s not nothing when over 40% of 18-34 yet only 17% of 55+ are open to the idea if US citizenship plus currency parity were offered. I see this as the inevitable result of decades teaching next gen children why Canada is such a terrible genocidal country burdened by inheriting its evil history while utterly failing to explain real Canadian history (why the country is the way it is) and the real reasons and a place to build upon what should be great national pride. We’ve collectively thrown that away. Without it we have no common identity nor any shared future endeavour to promote unity. We have zero interest in correcting this colossal fuck up the size of Canada. That’s why Canada is fucked.
Sure, emotions will kick in when it’s time to boo the American national anthem like the boorish morons we have become and many will feel some kind of connection to the country when the Trump administration does something to point out unpleasant reality to Canadians of what we have allowed ourselves to become, but without that historical connection understanding why the Canada-is-not-America-Lite identity narrative is so central and important, Canada cannot remain independent because we’re simply NOT independent. In any way. All political parties are responsible for this decline. Every provincial government over the past 50 years is responsible for implementing polices of decline. But mostly, older Canadians are responsible for this absolute failure by squandering the national inheritance in every way, undermining and demeaning the national character, and dismantling the country’s ability to REMAIN a strong and independent ally of the US.. Not only have older generations failed but we’ve guaranteed that failure by offering younger generations no good reasons to remain a poor and distant but dependent drag on the United Sates. Canada under many successive and politically different governments has become an unserious country well on its way to becoming what the Trump administration understands correctly to be a failed suzerain state.
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February 19, 2025 at 7:48 am
Carmen
It’s a good thing we have such brilliant minds as yourself to point out our failings as a nation. You and Jordan Peterson would have a great chat.
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February 19, 2025 at 8:37 am
Sumi
Why do you say that US annexation of Canada requires a referendum in both countries? There has never been a referendum on any US acquisition of land. The US annexes land through the president’s power to negotiate treaties, with statehood later granted through a resolution of Congress. Canada’s constitutional amending formula also does not require a referendum, since that would go against the principle of parliamentary sovereignty.
Since the US president has the power to single-handedly negotiate the annexation of Canada, what he says matters most. Trump has repeatedly said that he wants to see Canada as the 51st state and plans to use economic pressure to achieve that end. If the president’s own words don’t constitute “current, direct evidence from official U.S. government channels suggesting an intention to annex Canada,” I don’t know what would.
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February 19, 2025 at 11:00 am
The Arbourist
@Sumi
@Sumi
President Trump, at best, is a unreliable narrator. Consider the tariffs scheduled to come in on February 1st… and then they didn’t.
It doesn’t make political sense for the current administration to annex Canada. A huge influx of mostly left-wing voters (on the US political spectrum) would not be a desired outcome for the current republican administration.
If you haven’t noticed, President Trump says provocative things all the time. It is a strategy he uses fairly consistently to achieve other objectives.
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February 19, 2025 at 11:06 am
The Arbourist
@Carmen
Addressing me or Tildeb? If me, it takes no brilliance to ask AI to analyze a claim and the copy/paste the results. :) The narratives coming from the Canadian Left are precisely that – narratives – that are particularly truthful or honest, therefore it important to name that dynamic and present a counter narrative based on fact rather than political activism.
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February 19, 2025 at 11:28 am
Carmen
My comment was meant for Tildeb, Arb. *tongue firmly in cheek
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