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It is funny how often this claim comes up when engaging with the godbaggy crowd. You would think, seeing the historical record of authoritarian rule, that blindly following the dictates would not be a celebrated accomplishment. Potholer54 takes a hard look at this claim and provides a solid factual argument against the idea that because atheists have no ooga-booga to prostrate ourselves to, we are immoral.
One way to tell your position is full of shite? The amount of mental gymnastics required to make it sound coherent and palatable to someone else. Care to guess where christianity fits into the picture? Let DarkMatter2525 give you a clue:
Spend some time thinking if you have the god-bug – Would a caring god do these sorts of things? Why should my allegiance be to such a horrible entity? I know my atheist readers have already answered this question, but then we can also answer the same sorts of questions. Why do you behave as you do in a godless universe? Where do you get your morality from?
The Latin translation:
Am I to believe those were the acts of a loving God? A just God? A wise God? To hell with Your punishments! I was Your servant on Earth – I spread Your word and did Your work. To hell with your punishments! To hell with You!”
In this space we often decry religion for what it is: toxically delusional buffoonery that still has the gall to raise its putrid head in the light of the 21st century. Here at DWR we regularly delve into the myriad of topics relating to how religion poisons everything it touches and the shite secular rational people have to clean up once the clown-cars rev up and zoom away.
Religion supports patriarchy and thus by definition is anti-woman, the religious right does not want women to have bodily autonomy – the sooner they own that and hopefully reject that retrograde dark-middle-aged bullshite the more relevant to people that think they will become. Religion promotes hatred, sectarian and otherwise with magical beliefs that just happen to support bigotry and racism.
Racism, bigotry, misogyny and, oh hey, lets not forget anti-science and anti-intellectualism because using your faculties to explore the world around you is a sin of the highest order. If you’ve been following the Sunday Disservice, you know that all of the above and more is what we rally against in our fight for a society that uses a evidence based decision making model, not one based on unreliable, crusty mythological scriptures written for a different time and a different people.
We now get a snap shot of what the people in power could be like if religion would just sit the frak down and let rational progressive society do the work necessary to carry us to the next century. I realize this is a repost, but damn if I couldn’t watch this 20 more times and hope for time when it could actually happen.
TW for squick.
Tell me again about your just, kind, and loving god…
It is like watching a traffic accident, everyone just slows down and gawks at the spectacle at hand. The wordpress reader made me slow down and read this post from Cynthia on The Trumpet Sound.
Now usually when I see the godbaggy speak oozing forth from a blog I just keep on going knowing that safely nothing of any intelligible substance will come from there. Today folks though, it is different. This post pretty much has it all – Dreams! Prophecy! Revelation! – oh and the usual racism and batshit insane calumny one expects from the non-reality based.
This is a perfect example of Jon Stewart’s Mudslide on BullShit Mountain. If all your friends and media are saying the same things (based on magic happy thoughts) one has no way of telling what is actually happening outside of your little bubble of delusion. Our devoted GOP base are out of touch reality and as this upcoming examination of their brand of thinking will show, the way to fix problems caused by your delusional beliefs is with… moar delusional beliefs.
Hang on to your hats kids, the Arbourist and the trusty Ole SnarkyRed Pen O’ Justice will be scribing with the full righteous fury of rationality for your benefit today.
Let’s get this party started. (tomfoolery in brown, justice in red)
In the day following my posting of the article “America is Sinking,” I got physically super exhausted that I slept through the day while the election was being concluded in the US. While in deep sleep I got a phone call from my Mom-in-law informing me that Obama won. (I’m pretty sure one cannot be in a deep sleep and talk with the in-laws at the same time, although this could be a extraordinary ability powered by jebus himself, we should err on the side of caution and conclude this is merely poor writing.) We talked for a while and as she hang up, still with my eyes closed I asked, “Now what, Lord?”(Because eye open prayers and pleas to your magic sky daddy is for the sinners dontcha know.)
Then I heard the still small voice in my spirit, “It’s time to mourn.” (Oh, you actually questioned the voices in your head, good for you!) Then I said, “If I heard you correctly, Lord, please give me your word on it.” (You talked back to the voices in your head, bad for you. Not to mention questioning the supreme ooga-booga? I think you get to burn in hell for that one, just sayn’)
Then I could hear the voice said, “Open your Bible,” so I did. (Who doesn’t listen to the voices in their head – oh right..sane people) With eyes half opened, I saw the big bold letters: LAMENTATIONS and the highlighted first two verses. I needed go no further for I have known the verses to heart (full points for rote memorization of a dusty tomb of ancient bronze age wisdom) as these were the same words that He gave me when I asked for confirmation if I saw and heard right about the prophetic connection between A.A. Allen’s Vision and Don McLean’s American Pie song which I wrote here: (yes, folks there is divinity in the song American Pie, if you can see through the tears of laughter follow the link and let gods ‘wisdom’ revealed).
How lonely lies the city that once thronged with people! Once great among the nations, now she is like a widow! Once princess among provinces, she has become a vassal.
Bitterly she weeps at night, tears running down her cheeks. Not one of all her lovers is there to comfort her. Her friends have all betrayed her; they have become her enemies.
As I pondered on the situation and the word of the Lord, I remembered the Statue of Liberty prominently on a very dark background.(Phreaky!!)I thought that’s what America now, covered in darkness as Obama remains in the White House. When the thought of the White House hit , I saw a glimpse of a “black” White House. I thought it was weird, a “black” White House! (well duh! Black is evil and we all know what colour Obama is….Eeeeeevill!) When I recalled the image, it actually looked like a haunted house.
The Lord confirmed this impression of darkness covering America when yesterday I woke up and saw Obama and heard, “Darkness has swallowed up the land.”
(Well I’m glad for the sake of veracity that you are double checking your facts.)
This morning I woke up to a dream (distinguishing between sleep and awake cycles seems problematic for you). In the dream I was in our house in America. Then there came a storm, raging in its fury. It was horrifying as I watched it destroyed everything along the way. The land was covered with water that it became like a sea and our house standing in the middle of the sea. The tsunami-like waves rolled several times over. Then came the strongest wind which uprooted several trees and gave a devastating blow all over. The last wave hit and receded and hardened. Everything was destroyed except our house which remained intact and unscratched. Then there was stillness as if the world stood still. (You are making this shit up to conform to your feelings and then adding “my skydaddy says so” to make your confused rantings sound important.).
The stillness though was very brief for there came a very loud noise of merrymaking. My Mom and I went to the window to see what was happening. We saw people in gay costumes on the watered street . The noise was the sound of a band marching on the street still covered with water. These people are homosexuals (because people in frivolous uniforms = homosexuals the world over, a pox on you shiny sequins!!). My mother asked what they were doing. Then I told her, “This is what the Lord said, that these people do not believe that the storm is His judgment. They still do not believe that God is judging them for their perversion.(And you were worried that Cynthia would only be a racist, but like so many delusional christian warriors the homophobia runs strong as well.) Their merrymaking is an act of defiance, telling God to His face, ‘We don’t believe you.’” (How dare they not believe in my mythology!?! That is a double burning in hell forever on you – and take your sequins with you!!) Just as I said that the sky darkened again and another storm was coming quickly. Then I woke up (You do know that its okay to express your opinions without all the weirdness right?).
Obama was re-elected because America never woke up to reality during his first term(Oh cupcake, the reality you talk about has been around you since day 1, inside the insipid religious bubble of stupid you inhabit reality doesn’t make a whit of sense). The close contest (actually Obama always ahead, but then again, in fantasy land that factual based shite doesn’t matter.) between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney was an indication that the Lord could have changed His mind and given the US another grace period (by grace period you mean more government policy based on the shitty things you believe that have little to do with reality or rational thought.) with a lesser evil in the White House. But as Americans never learned and humbled themselves before God (prostrating oneself for mythological creatures has gone out of style, at least for those who value rationality), He has now given the nation over to the power of the devil (No, not the Devil!) . Evil will be unleashed in greater intensity. Obama is the embodiment of Satan (oh yes, the Devil).
( Just a brief note. Thinking like this is partially responsible for the Democratic victory in 2012, so really my GOP base friends pray harder, its working wonders for you.)




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