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If there is anything that will enrage men more is women speaking out against their view of the world. The first class citizens get mighty mad when the second class start challenging their assertions and interpretations of the world.
This post delves into the war of words that is currently raging between transactivists and radical feminists in the wake of the Vancouver Women’s March.
It starts with one courageous individual at the Women’s march who expressed herself via a sign which, of course, was immediately labelled ‘transphobic’ and caused much consternation for certain trans identified males involved with the march.
Keep in mind the woman’s only ‘crime’ is expressing her opinion while at a Women’s march.
So then this happened. One fine TIM (trans identified male) decided he wanted to go after this woman carrying a sign at the protest. This next screen shot is from The Feminist Current.
We pick up the conversation on twitter between Meghan Murphy and Morgane Oger.
The battle against transactivism is being fought now. Patriarchy 2.0 is happening and Meghan Murphy along with other feminists are on the front lines defending women and the right to speak the truth about their bodies and experiences.
Oh, just shaking my head at this one. Watch the trans identified male dig a nice hole for himself as he debates with Meghan Murphy and other gender critical feminists.
I have laws enshrined in society now that protects my male delusions of gender, fear me female! Of course, cue the defence against the world of facts and reality.
Julie Rei makes assertions that are not based in fact. Watch how quickly Julie gets shut down.
Whoo-whee! Now there is some goal-post shifting at its finest. Shift away Julie, I’m pretty sure Gender Rebel is not going to brook any of your shit.
Lol-cakes! The idea that you can adopt the patriarchally approved gender stereotypes and that somehow makes you a woman is not only foolish, it is appalling. Bullshit patriarchal expectations are what radical feminists fight against because, you guessed it, they hurt women (and men).
In the last panel Scott rightly points out the irony of Morgane’s position and PinkPussyHatRadFemTERF delivers the Coup de grâce doing what radfems do best naming the problem and identifying how to counter it.
This BS sadly is happening in my country. I’m so very glad that we have people who are standing up to the trans-cult when they make assertions contrary to reality. Oh hey, let me get that definition mentioned in the twitter stream.
Pluralistic Ignorance – “In social psychology, pluralistic ignorance is a situation in which a majority of group members privately reject a norm, but incorrectly assume that most others accept it, and therefore go along with it.[1] This is also described as “no one believes, but everyone thinks that everyone believes”. In short, pluralistic ignorance is a bias about a social group, held by that social group.[2][3]
Pluralistic ignorance may help to explain the bystander effect.[4] If no-one acts, onlookers may believe others believe action is incorrect, and may therefore themselves refrain from acting.”
The great part is that you (genderists) really can’t. It’s like well women are like this and this in society (insert toxic gender role here) and men are like this in society (insert toxic gender role)… You see, if your touchstones for your ‘gender identity’ are the fucking patriarchal approved norms of society then what you are doing isn’t ‘progressive’ or ‘queer’ it is replicating patriarchy and the normative values patriarchy supports. Way to support the status quo, appropriate gold stars to be dispensed for your empowerful hyper-individualism.
And then you wonder why feminists that struggle for the emancipation of women (adult human females) are calling bullshit on your claims of ‘gender-identity’. It’s fucking patriarchy all the way through and thus, not good for anyone.
So surprising right? Google trans identified men and a plethora of results showing successful business people, politicians and cultural leaders. What to trans identified women get hits for in google? Looking pretty.
Almost like there is another axis of oppression at work that happens to supersede any individual claims to the construct of gender.
Men really need to stop trying to make feminism about them.
Pretty much every conversation I’ve had with people who, when it comes to basic biological facts, decide it necessary to jump through tortured hoops to evade this simple question. Is there a more clear example of men trying to impose their version of reality on the world? We cannot change sex (facts, don’t care about your feelings even hurt male ones). Yet we have a whole swath of the population that are willing to throw down to avoid the facts of the matter. I’m heartened that I’m starting to see women taking the piss out those who support male delusions of gender.
[Source: The Vancouver woMen’s March Twitter]
The Bloodroot is a small vegan restaurant. Their crime? Having the absolute gall and audacity to state – in a feminist space no less – that they believe in supporting women born women. It is enough of a transgression to bring the trans-hoarde along with the usual threats, cyberbullying, and harassment (typical aggressive male behaviour) that uppity women (in this case two elderly lesbians) get for not bowing down to prescribed male reality.
“Bloodroot Vegetarian Restaurant has been a beloved staple of Bridgeport, Conn. for more than 40 years, serving up feminist-influenced plant-based fare to the likes of Audre Lordre and Adrienne Rich, as well as dedicated locals. But a recent review alleging that owners Selma Miriam and Noel Furie reject transgender customers has set off a firestorm online.
For many, the fallout has echoes of the Michfest debate, which divided LGBTQ women for more than two decades. And while the review has since been removed, it appears in screenshots on Facebook, and Bloodroot’s own statement in response has kept the conversation going.
In the review from late December, a customer writes that upon a visit to Bloodroot, she was having lunch with a friend when she began speaking with Miriam and Furie about up Lorde having been a friend of the restaurant. The conversation turned to the customer’s own dream of having a “queer and trans intentional community and sanctuary.”
“Immediately Selma and Noel looked at one another and Selma said, ‘[W]e strongly believe in supporting only women born women here,” the customer alleges. “‘[W]e are disgusted by men who think they can put on dresses and nail polish and pump themselves up with nail polish and pump themselves with chemicals and say they are women. [T]hey just aren’t. and we will never support them.'”
The customer then she she felt uncomfortable and afraid, and is now advocating that others “refuse to support them and encourage others to do the same.”
Both Miriam and Furie declined to be interviewed for this piece, but in a Dec. 31 statement posted to their Facebook page, Bloodroot says the controversy stemmed from a conversation with a new customer who asked if they knew of an establishment that catered to trans people.
“We didn’t,” the statement reads, “but since we are not trans, it wasn’t all that interesting to us personally and stated that for us, we prefer women only spaces. This comes from our history. When Bloodroot first started in the 70’s [sic] we were trying to create a space specifically safe for women, since there were so few places like that at the time. Of course even back then we were open and welcoming to everyone, not just women.”
The post goes on to say that customer misunderstood that reply and wrote a post online slamming Bloodroot.
“We understand this is a subject matter that many people are passionate about, but we feel this anger is misguided and misplaced,” Bloodroot says in the statement. “Regardless of how you feel about Bloodroot’s stand on this, we will continue to be a welcoming space for all types of people, including those that are transgender, and treat everyone with respect.”
After the Restaurant’s FB post, Charlie Rae answers the call and deftly puts the situation into perspective (especially the last paragraph).
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