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MP Brad Trost (tosh) brings home the fail.
“A part of their [planned parenthood] mission statement is to support abortion, which I view as morally wrong,” he said.”
Hey Brad your “Moral decisions” should stay the frack out of a woman’s business when it comes to her body.
“Brad Trost, the MP for Saskatoon-Humboldt, says he will continue to oppose federal dollars being provided to the organization Planned Parenthood.”
Ah, the enlightened people elected this baron of misogyny and he continues to speak out against women. Fantastic.
“But Trost says he needs more information before he comments on his government’s decision to renew funding for the International Planned Parenthood Federation.”
Since when do conservatives look at information about what they are legislating? He’s going to require conservative reeducation.
“During the federal election campaign, the Conservative MP told the Saskatchewan ProLife Association that, thanks in part to petitions from the group, the federal government had stopped giving money to Planned Parenthood.”
Utter Tosh has a record of doing and believing in stupid things. Apparently if you’re a Canadian conservative, it is a good for your career.
Somedays you go looking for trouble, other days you just step in it. On a whim I followed a link from a discussion over at The Drudgeretort back to one of the commenters own little putrid slice of the blogosphere. I was greeted by the feverish ramblings of the delusional in favour stripping women of rights to her body. Justified, of course, by none other than the magic christain book of inanity that says its OKAY (unsurprisingly) to treat women like chattel.
Anti-choice, anti-rational, anti-woman - Religion for the Win!
We’re going to examine a particularly vile post advocating what seems to be the end of female bodily autonomy. The author a thoroughly bizarre narrative stream of godbag tosh referring to the christian boogyman Satan as Mr. Beelzebub. Laughable at the onset, the patronizing tone sets the stage for the upcoming anti-woman religious baffle gab.
“Mr. Beelzebub says many things to make abortion appear as just another meaningless thought with no consequences or judgement from our Creator. Here’s a few stretches on abortion along with my statement in red:” (I guess I’ll have to use green, as our delusional friend is using red to share his wisdom with us. You know its going to be a wild ride in the land of Fail when you see “The Creator” capitalized in the first sentence.)
1. It’s a womans body, so it’s her right. ( Her body is her temple, and God said to protect and take care of your temple. Her right is to protect the child within her temple because they are as one.)
Well, it is actually a woman’s body, so what she does with it is her business. “God said…” well that’s enough to invalidate any argument, so point number one is a wash.
2. It’s not a child, it’s nothing until it’s born. ( He labels the child ‘It’ to distance the child from mother.)
Oh, beware of the temptations of the ‘darkside’ of my mythology of choice and creates a straw man all at the same time. “It” has several names as it matures inside the woman uterus, blastocyst, fetus etc. Calling it a child at these stages is one of the time honoured anti-choice obfuscations of fact. You can call an acorn an oak tree if you’d like, but you’d still be wrong.
3. Feminism gave you the power, use it in all ways. ( With great power comes great responsibility and like anything, Feminism should call for the respect of others and remember that ”just because I can” is not a good reason.)
Wow, channelling the wisdom of Stan Lee and Spiderman to serve the religious whack-a-nut cause. Stay tuned for the next biblical announcement from the Flash about the horrors of premature ejaculation (god hates that too). Feminism does call for the respect of “others” namely women, you know, the half of society that the religious wish to disenfranchise and marginalize. Feminism argues that women should be treated like well, people, as opposed to incubators.
4. Abortion clinics beats mass wire hanger abortion. (The ends doesn’t justify the means. Legal abortion has caused irreversible harm to way more souls, the living and the unborn.)
I have no idea what the point in black means other than that yes indeed, having a medical professional perform an abortion is much safer than illegal means. Misogyny is always ugly, but it is contemptibly vile when dressed in the tattered religious trappings attempting to masquerade as ‘ethical’.
Newsflash: Women will seek abortion whether it is legal are not, and by what you have said its okay for more of them to die because they cannot access the procedure withing the relative safety of hospital or clinic. But murdering women for god is nothing new for christians, hello Inquisition.
4. These are unwanted fetuses and they will be an unwanted children left for tax payers to take care of. ( So we’re prejudging millions of souls, we’re suppose to judge before knowing, how is this Godly?)
God kills millions of babies every month, every year etc. Ever notice that thing that happens to women oh..once a month…all that egg goodness gets washed away. Coupled with the fact that roughly 2/3 of fertilized eggs don’t implant and get exuded means your sky-daddy is all about the murder from stage one.
Oh and you’ll have to prove there is a soul in the first place for any of the above horsepucky to make sense.
5. Why make a female suffer through child-birth when raped, molested or she has medical issues where death is possible while giving birth. ( The devil is good at throwing in arguments that will make us go hmm. This is the debate we should be having regarding abortions, not the all out, everything goes policy we have now.)
That darned devil, making arguments for the idea that women are autonomous human beings and have the right to choose what goes on in their bodies. The whole idea smacks of freedom, equality and justice. Therefore, the religious must be against it.
“As Christians we shouldn’t [sic] except abortions as a necessary evil to protect us from us. [You certainly don’t have to, but for the rest of us who are not afflicted with jebus on the brain, piss-off.]We can also acknowledge ones right to choose, but hold firm to the idea of right and wrong choices[Decided on by who? You amazing moral guide written by the supreme being who in his commandments made no mention of rape? The bible is no place even to start a reasonable ethical system]. Have we gotten so soft on whats wrong that it just don’t matter anymore [I’m sorry about your problem :)]. Well it matters, when so many loose their way and open up to sin, it affects us all [citation needed], and I refuse to voluntarily surrender my soul to this foolishness, I will be no part [You make it sound like giving something up that you most likely don’t have is some sort of big deal. It isn’t.].”
And there you have it folks, partriarchally approved anti-woman, anti-choice religious douche-baggery at it finest. Isn’t the inherent misogyny grand? Damn women wanting a voice of what goes on in their bodies…the nerve.
When one searches for “Feminism Canada” it is surprising that the REAL Women of Canada website comes up so quickly. They indeed must have their google-fu locked and loaded because the shite they are peddling is quite amazing. On abortion, they have the anti-choice playbook covered and pretty much have the standard fetus-fetish boilerplate canardage in spades.
“REAL WOMEN OF CANADA reaffirms that the family is society’s most important unit:[Well, stating one fact is good, it quickly goes downhill from here] we value equally every family member, born or unborn [*sigh* So the stupid assumptions begin. The unborn are just that, unborn therefore not entitled to the rights we grant people]. Reproductive choice is exercised prior to conception, because conception and birth are consequences of choice; not choices in themselves [And condoms never break, nonconsensual sex never happens and frack, once your ladyparts are in incubator mode *your* autonomy is over]. Anyone who is not certain that there is a second human being[we have terms for this, blastocyst, embryo etc. Mislabelling a blastocyst, by calling it a human being is misleading – Most, “what about the baaaabeeee! nonsense origates from shite like this] growing within the pregnant woman[You don’t mean incubator with legs here do you?] should clearly give that human life the benefit of the doubt.[*facepalm* Oh you do..]“
The red pen of justice and commentary? Gentle readers, the amount of anti-woman sentiment going in this car-wreck of a “statement on Abortion” deserves nothing less. Appealing to emotion, ignoring reality and eliminating the bodily autonomy of women, all in one paragraph. Amazing.
It is said repeatedly by feminists that society over the years has oppressed women and that feminism is the answer to overturning this oppression. How, then, can the genuine feminist justify, in turn, aborting her unborn son or daughter[actually its quite easy, you forced-birth-douche-bags along with rest who would want to have their say over what goes in my body can go frack-yourselves, you see easy.], the most deadly kind of oppression[A more pernicious type of oppression is a group of people identifying themselves for women’s rights but instead promoting patriarchal values and the disenfranchisement of women; essentially subverting the very notion of women’s rights.]
In a democracy, there is the acceptance and practice of the principle of equality of rights, opportunity and treatment for all[Nice statement, if it was actually true, you might be able to base your assertions on it.]. The unborn child must be included because we cannot arbitrarily take away the rights[Funny, it seems like you are making the rights of the female go *poof* without any compunction whatsoever.]of one group of human beings without giving assent to the withdrawal of rights from other categories of human beings. Since we are pro-family, we cannot discriminate by allowing an attack on one member of the human family such as the[don’t forget unborn sperm & eggs too, I’m guessing ‘REAL’ women are not much for masturbation or menses either.] unborn child. Doing so has opened the door to attacks on other vulnerable members of the family [citation needed, otherwise your rhetoric is just sympathetic tripe], such as the aged, and the mentally and physically disabled.
Sends shivers deep into the rectal area, doesn’t it? It is always appalling to see this sort of nonsense take root in one’s own country. I shudder to think of what being a woman in the US is like, with rights to one’s bodily autonomy and reproductive choice under constant attack. For instance, Mr.Rick Anal-Froth Sanatorum hates women, observe:
[transcript excerpt] Santorum: You know, the Supreme Court of the Unites States, on a recent case, said that a man who committed rape could not be killed, would not be subject to the death penalty—yet the child [sic] conceived as a result of that rape could be. That to me sounds like a country that doesn’t have its morals correct. That child [sic] did nothing wrong. That child [sic] is— [pauses for audience applause]. That child [sic] is an innocent victim. To be victimized twice would be a horrible thing.
“It is an innocent human life. It is genetically human from the moment of conception—it is a human life—and we in America should be big enough to try to surround ourselves and help women in those terrible situations—they’ve been traumatized already! To put them through another trauma of an abortion I think is, uh, is too much to ask, and I so I would, I would just absolutely stand and say that ONE violence in enough!
[Melissa McEwan from Shakesville commenting on said video]
“Yes, Rick Santorum, to be victimized twice would be a horrible thing—and many women who get pregnant via rape consider being forced to carry to term a pregnancy caused by rape and bear their rapist’s child a revictimization of their bodies. Which is why women have a choice. No pregnant rape survivor is required to get an abortion; and no pregnant rape survivor should be denied an abortion, either. And if you genuinely believed that to be victimized twice is a horrible thing, you would agree with me, you despicable, body-policing, misogynistic, hypocritical dipshit.”
“I have said before that I ardently believe, by virtue of what giving birth demands of the human body, the anti-choice position to be inherently violent. To take an anti-choice position in the case of a pregnancy resulting from rape is to turn the inherent violence up to 11.
“Let me be blunt: Rick Santorum is suggesting that after a man violates my body without my consent, sticks his penis in my vagina without my consent, ejaculates into my body without my consent, impregnates me without my consent, that he, Rick Santorum, should then have the right to force me to submit my body for nine months to a pregnancy I do not want, force me to submit my body to all that pregnancy can entail, from morning sickness to milk-engorged breasts to stretch marks to potentially life-threatening complications, and then force me to push out a baby I did not consent to conceive through the same vagina that was raped nine months earlier, and then decide whether to parent my rapist’s child or give up my child for adoption.”
Thanks but no thanks Mr.Anal-Froth. Time to take your misogyny marbles and head on home.
Liberty in the land of the brave, and the home of the free seems to be missing a clause somewhere because liberty is not really working well for women, especially if looking for access to reproductive health services such as abortion. The Alternet article lists the top 10 states where Abortion is virtually illegal. For me this is a bottom 10 list, and I will highlight the lowlights of this particular list.
“1) Idaho. Even though the constitutional right to abortion has been established for 38 years, a woman in Idaho was arrested and charged for aborting her pregnancy. The woman bought some drugs online to terminate her pregnancy, and was ratted out by an acquaintance who disapproves of a woman’s right to choose.”
2) Iowa – Christine Taylor accidentally fell down some stairs and went for treatment at the hospital. While telling the nurse about her personal problems, a common enough situation at a hospital, Taylor let on that she had briefly considered abortion early in her pregnancy. The nurse called the cops, claiming the accident was an attempt at self-abortion. Taylor suffered three weeks of purgatory before the D.A. dropped the charges, but the fact remains that a woman was arrested and charges were considered on the grounds that she’d thought about exercising her constitutional rights.
3) Utah. As Michelle Goldberg explained in the Daily Beast, no woman’s story is too heart-rending for anti-choice zealots not to try to put her in jail for attempting an abortion. A pregnant 17-year-old who lived without electricity or running water in rural Utah, who may have been exploited by an older man and who certainly had no way to get to a doctor or pay for an abortion, paid a man $150 to beat her in the stomach.
4) Louisiana. Using law enforcement creatively to get around the legal right to abortion is done in ways other than prosecuting women, of course. There’s also the practice of targeting abortion providers and hitting them with unnecessary, harassing regulations that aren’t applied to any other medical facilities.
5) Kansas. It may still be legal to get or provide abortion in Kansas, but it’s become increasingly dangerous to do so. Human rights aren’t really being secured if trying to exercise them means facing threats of violence, as the civil rights activists of the past can tell you. Already one abortion provider in Kanas, Dr. George Tiller, has been assassinated, which dropped the number of providers in the state from four to three.
6) Virginia. Virginia is quickly rivaling some of the more deep South states in the art of using legal harassment to run abortion providers out of business. Not only is the legislature trying to pass regulations that hold abortion clinics to hospital-level standards, but anti-choicers are trying to interfere with the Department of Health’s decisions allowing abortion clinics to operate in the state.
7) Mississippi. The legal battles continue over whether or not it’s legal for the state to issue a ballot initiative on the question of whether a fertilized egg should be legally considered a “person.” If civil liberties groups challenging the ballot initiative lose out, it will probably pass into law, which not only threatens abortion, contraception and IVF access, but could result in legal actions taken against women who merely miscarry or give birth to stillborns.
8) Indiana. Indiana has dropped from 15 providers in 2005 to 12 in 2008. Law enforcement in the state has been looking for creative ways to put women in jail for failing to bear live children. A woman who attempted suicide while pregnant, only to give birth to a baby who didn’t survive, has been charged with murder.
9) Ohio. Luckily, legislation that would ban abortion of any pregnancy where the fetus has a heartbeat is currently stalled in the legislature, but if this bill moves forward, it could be nearly as dangerous as a bill defining a fertilized egg as a person.
10) South Dakota. South Dakota legislators passed the most stringent waiting period law in the country, requiring a woman to wait 72 hours for an abortion and consult with a registered anti-choice pregnancy center before getting her abortion.
As no anti-choice centers have signed up yet, the law functionally bans abortion in South Dakota.
My personal favourite is Mississippi where they are really going wild-crazy-sauce with trying to legislate into existence the definition person being a fertilized egg. It just scary really how far the anti-choicers are willing to go force pregnancy on women. Women are not incubators yet it seems Mississippi legislators are doing their best to turn them into exactly that.
Hopefully, there remains some sensible people down south who can throw out this attack on women.
It is nice to see the infringement on the rights of women abortion debate framed in such a succinct manner.
“As I’ve said before (and will almost certainly have occasion to say many times again, until everyone is yawning about what a goddamn broken record I am), the anti-choice position is inherently violent, no matter how politely it is stated. If anyone else suggested that I should be forced to submit my body against my will to nine months of potential discomfort and pain, followed by an act that might include the skin and muscle between my vagina and anus being torn open, I don’t think we’d mince words about whether they were using violent rhetoric. But because we can couch it in the bullshit terminology of “a pro-life position,” that’s supposed to be evidence of civility.
That’s supposed to evidence of an unyielding belief in the sanctity of human life.
LULZ.
I am a human. That does not in any way feel like a respect for the sanctity of my life, or the quality of my life, or the agency over my life to which I am meant to have a public (and, according to Huckabee’s own religion, divine) right.
No one can argue, with any honesty or credibility, that they give a fuck about the sanctity of life if they would force a woman to carry to term an unwanted or unviable pregnancy against her will. That is the opposite of a respect for life, if the definition of “life” is to have any meaning at all.”
Run along anti-choice zealots…run along.
Considering the usual abuse of logic and science on the behest of the fetus – fetish crowd, it is really quite unsurprising that on yet another of their talking points – The majority of women who have abortions are emotionally scarred for life – is bunk. The Guttmacher Institute sent this little gem out via email.
“An authoritative new study from researchers in Denmark, noteworthy for its exceptionally strong methodology, confirms what the best scientific evidence has long shown—that there is no causal link between abortion and mental health problems. The new study, “Induced First-Trimester Abortion and Risk of Mental Disorder,” by Trine Munk-Olsen and colleagues, was published in the January 27, 2011, issue of the New England Journal of Medicine.”
The study succeeds in addressing several critical limitations that have afflicted some other studies that purport to show causation between abortion and subsequent mental health problems. It can be viewed as unusually rigorous for this type of research for several reasons.”
Wow, correlation does not equal causation. The review of the study continues:
• The sample was very large, comprising 84,620 women who had first-time, first-trimester abortions between 1995 and 2007.
• It did not rely on retrospective self-reports from women, who typically underreport abortions. Instead, it was based on complete patient medical registries, which include virtually all mental health disorders, births and abortions experienced by the Danish population: the Danish Psychiatric Central Register and the Danish National Register of Patients.
• The study has strong controls for women’s mental health prior to abortion, a critical factor that many other studies do not control for sufficiently, if at all.
The study found no higher rate of mental health problems among Danish women in the 12 months following an abortion than in the nine months prior to the procedure.
So, yet another talking point dispatched. Score another for science and truth.
“Not all studies on the mental health impact of abortion are created equal. In fact, according to the American Psychological Association, methodological flaws are “pervasive in the literature on abortion and mental health.” Antiabortion activists often attempt to capitalize on the fact that the public and many policymakers cannot distinguish between studies that allow legitimate conclusions to be drawn about the effects of abortion and those that show only associations between abortion and mental health outcomes.”
The forced birthers not being academically or scientifically honest? Admittedly, there are not many other options to take considering the frail house of cards most anti-choice positions are built on.
“Antiabortion activists have relied on questionable science in their efforts to push inclusion of the concept of “postabortion syndrome” in both clinical practice and law. This latest study strongly confirms the existing body of methodologically sound evidence in clearly refuting the idea that abortion causes harm to women’s mental health. The body of evidence is now so robust that researchers should consider shifting their focus to related issues that might be more valuable to explore, such as the factors that cause women to experience mental health problems in the first place.
Of course, the anti-choicers won’t, as the health and welfare of women are secondary to their mendaciously insipid assault on women’s rights.
Thailand: Back Alley Abortions - Unsafe, Unhygienic but supported by the religious so its OK!
The state of Thailand has been restricting the rights of half their population since the 1950’s. Considering the influence of their religion the lower status of women is hardly a surprise.
“As most abortion is illegal in Thailand, the case has shone a spotlight on a massive backstreet industry and sparked national debate about the country’s current abortion laws, which date from the 1950s.”
A hat tip to those courageous individuals who brace social disgrace and negative pressure to exercise their rights as human beings. Outlawing abortion is sexist, patriarchal and ultimately ineffective.
“Religion has played a significant social and political role in this debate. Theravada Buddhism in Thailand is a socially conservative force. About 95 per cent of the population are Buddhist and Buddhism remains closely tied to the state.
The Buddhist nation has strict laws on abortion and views it as a sin.
“In Buddhism, we see abortion as a sin. It definitely violates our religious belief. Killing is a sin. It doesn’t matter whether the killing takes place inside or outside the womb, it’s a sin,” Phra Kru Wichitsorakul, the abbot of Phai Ngern temple, says.”
And there we have the douchebaggery otherwise known as organized religion frakking things up as usual. Religion is a close second only to Patriarchy for the disenfranchisement of women.
“Illegal abortion is a huge problem in Thailand, a country of 67 million people. Official statistics suggest around 300,000 abortions are carried out each year in Thailand, the vast majority in backstreet clinics.
And with hundreds of unwanted pregnancies illegally terminated every day….”
You see the anti-woman crowd in North America pushing for this scenario, it boggles the mind on how repressive and misogynistic their goals actually are.
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