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meme-privilegeI just needed to share this with you, gentle readers.  My humble experiences on other feminists blogs reminds me that women discussing women’s issues is a clairion call that rouses the  dudes who either don’t have a clue what’s going on, or by the rights invested in their ‘peen, decide to tell women what the issue is, and even, if they issue is actually an issue at all.  It happens on even the most basic of issues that should be obvious if not blinkered by privilege and good ole fashioned ignorance.

Here it is.

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The title of the post is “Men Taking up too much space”.  No relevant text, just the picture and a link to the tumblr that has more images of dudes being dudes.  It brings up a valid point:

that in the public sphere men get to define their own space and women do not.

Let’s sample the comments on this seemingly straightforward post.

I disapprove of this website. It’s pretty mean-spirited to post pictures of people on a public forum for the permanent record for what amounts to (at most) a very minor infraction. Moreover, I can’t tell how empty these trains are. There are a couple of pictures in which it is clear that the dude is crowding out other people — the one linked above for example. But most of them that’s just not even close to obvious, and from what I can tell, a lot of the trains look fairly empty. So why shouldn’t people — men or women — spread out a little? Some of the picture also seem to me to be more anti-fat person too.

Really?  We’re going to nit-pick privacy issues and state strong disapprobation with the entire website!  The use of public space is a phenomena and not all pictures are going to be black and white clear cut examples.  Hyperskepticism rears its ugly head once again, funny how it only comes along when male privilege(NSFW link warning) is challenged.

More on the sacred right of privacy for dudes:

“It’s not hard to blur out the faces of the photographs. It’s in fact really easy. The organizers of this site have opted to not do this.”

“I have to concur that this was an unreasonable decision on the part of the person or persons who operate that website. Even if it weren’t true that, as Matt points out, the website includes many marginal and/or ambiguous cases”

“Why couldn’t they blur the faces? Terrible judgment involved here, of the kind that inherently tends to overshadow the point they were trying to make (which is a shame).”

Translation: How dare you violate the privacy of men?!   We are talking about people here and their privacy.   What about the poor menz!!11!11!!

I arch my eyebrow at the bleating of this inconsequential minor infraction and then look back up to the link to a search using the key terms “upskirt” and “voyeur” and behold the hundreds of sites offering thousands of pictures of women who unlike the clothed men in the tumblr photos, are often naked or in states of undress, unconsenting and unaware.

But non blurred faces of these dudes “overshadows the point”.   *sigh*  What isn’t overshadowed is the societal conditioning that Men are the default standard human beings and women are the sex class and most pointedly do not share the same status as men.

It gets better, or really, worse as the comments go on.  We’ll file this next section under privileged clueless dudes that have important things to say:

2) When men do encroach, as in the OP photo, people have to say something. It irritates me to covertly sneer at someone over the distance of the Internet in lieu of confronting them face to face.”

“And I’m not making any assumptions about “equal basis”, whatever that means, or socialization.”

“I’m talking about how we change bad conduct. It’s not by being self-righteous and cowardly over the Internet.”

“Definitely. But the mean-spiritedness and humiliation tactics are misplaced, especially in a world with much bigger issues for gender equality than space-hoggers on public transit. It trivializes women’s issues; it’s so petty I couldn’t take it seriously.”

Oh the sheer ignorance on display.  It is so amazing to watch the clueless ramble on about how things are and if only women did this.  Make careful notes good readers at the privilege-blind wanking going here that conveniently ignores social norms, power gradients and gender socialization in society.  If your space is enroached on, then just tell the person off.  Easy as pie.  What is your problem here???

*headesking them forever (thanks Syrbal)* –  Dudes will come up with all sorts of shite to mansplain away the concerns of women.

 

But enough indulgence.  If you have any spoons left over and feel like taking a run at educating dudes on the internet, join the fun over at Feminist Philosophers.. :)

 

 

 

   Every once and awhile I feel the need to put information that is important into a blog post for easy reference.  Today’s post is an amalgamation of the concept of Mansplaining, what it involves and how and why it happens.

Let’s start of with a definition:
Mansplaining isn’t just the act of explaining while male, of course; many men manage to explain things every day without in the least insulting their listeners.

Mansplaining is when a dude tells you, a woman, how to do something you already know how to do, or how you are wrong about something you are actually right about, or miscellaneous and inaccurate “facts” about something you know a hell of a lot more about than he does.

Bonus points if he is explaining how you are wrong about something being sexist!

Think about the men you know. Do any of them display that delightful mixture of privilege and ignorance that leads to condescending, inaccurate explanations, delivered with the rock-solid conviction of rightness and that slimy certainty that of course he is right, because he is the man in this conversation?

That dude is a mansplainer.”

Another definition:   Mansplaining — you know mansplaining, right? It’s that loud, annoying, repetitive alarm call that men emit whenever they perceive a lower-status person challenging their authority — isn’t really so goddam hilarious in and of itself. This is because it is a hallmark of domination culture, because it is comprised primarily of meaningless noise (whether taken in or out of context), and because it is obfuscatory, oppressive, denigrating, sexist, and rude. It can only achieve comic status when openly mocked. Preferably by an angry mob.

More definition goodness from the comment thread:

“This is clearly a form of taxonomy, where we are classifying a form of speech. Specifically:

“the use of male privilege to justify condescending and unnecessary explanation to an equally or more knowledgeable female.”

Note 1: This applies even when the speaker has no clue that the recipient is female, and indeed when the genders of all participants are completely indeterminate.

Note 2: There is apparently some sort of “male privilege” concept which holds between two anonymous bloggers of no discernible gender.

Note 3: Some feel that this phenomenon can occur between men, though others disagree. Both sides agree that the concept that is inherently about minz talking down to wimminz because they are wimminz – even when the recipients are minz or presumed to be minz. It’s unclear whether the reverse holds true, ie, whether a valid charge of mansplaining can be upheld when the anonymous speaker is actually and/or presumed to be a wimminz – more testing in this area may be required.

Note 4: Questioning why anyone feels the need to inject sexism as an explanation into a situation completely devoid of gender roles or identity is sexist, and a form of mansplaining.

Note 5: On balance, mansplaining seems to be more of a convenient label which describes the *response* to dialog rather than the dialog itself. Overall, it seems to be a specific solution of the “why can’t [subgroup] just shut up and realize how right I am all of the time?” for cases where [subgroup] == men and [speaker] = female. Of course, many such solutions exist, including the converse for [subgroup] == women, [subgroup] == foreigners, [subgroup] == [members of hated political party], etc.

Recommend further testing to validate this hypothesis.”

Of course we need a heartwarming anecdote:

“And, as perhaps one of my all-time favorite examples of mansplaining, one time, my girlfriend and I were eating dinner with a white male human. During the course of this meal, I recounted a true story about a high school in the Midwest whose mascot used to be a racial slur for a Chinese person. This mascot was changed sometime in the early 1980s, due to members of this racial minority group protesting. After I told this story, at which many members of the dinner party were quite horrified, the white male human dinner companion misread what, exactly, everyone else was horrified about. Instead, he replied, with perfect certainty, “That is what you call Political Correctness Gone Awry,” and then proceeded to continue eating his Man Food, assuming that the conversation was over now that he had sufficiently mansplained the travesty that had occurred.

His lack of empathy aside, it was that deadly combo of dead certainty that his point of view was completely objective coupled with that incompetent assumption that he was automatically more In The Know About Things than all women present that pretty much defines the art of mansplanation. Yet, the privilege of his race cannot be discounted here, either. Oftentimes, whiteness and maleness work together to exponentially increase a man’s propensity to mansplain.

And so this instance, was also a classic case of whitesplaining, whereby a white person whitesplains how a person of color is “wrong” about something being racist against people of color. It’s the same basic idea as mansplaining- as both are grounded in the privilege of one’s identity being considered society’s default and, therefore, more objective than the experiences of Other identities.

Whereas whitesplaining is the result of the white experience being “normed,” mansplaining, is the logical result of males possessing the privilege whereby they are largely assumed to be both default human beings and automatically competent at life. If white people and men, and especially white males, are not aware of this, they are incredibly likely to wrongly assume themselves to be more competent than women and people of color at pretty much everything, up to and including what it means to live as a female or person of color in society.”

Not a bad start, and for the record if you get referred here please take the time to read and understand the concepts mentioned above, it will save everyone a lot of time.

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