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Women under patriarchy often are told that the choices they make will differentiate themselves from those “other” women. That the choices they make as an individual will empower them to overcome the obstacles they face. Granted, in some individual cases this can happen, but for the vast majority of women the choices they make individually in society does not alter society’s or men’s impressions and evaluations of them. Hence, the resultant series of catch 22’s that define the female experience – Virgin/Whore, Push-Over/B*tch, Motherly/Control Freak et cetera.
The common factor that is missing from much of liberal feminist analysis is the idea that misogyny is the backdrop (canvas, background radiation, insert meaningful metaphor here)to the stage of how society operates. Men will hate women in whichever role they choose, thus negating much if not all of the progress claimed by individual women.
Let us thank tumblr user Sazquatch (original post unavailable) as she provides perspective into the finer points of how misogyny works in society.
It’s not really as simple as saying “Men treat you badly when you do x, therefore men hate x, and so you doing x is empowering yourself and standing up to them!!” because men treat us badly no matter what we do, even if what we are doing materially benefits them. That’s what misogyny is – the hatred of women.
Men treat women who engage in sex with them badly, talking about how they’re worthless sluts if they send nudes etc., and you’re not gonna convince me that men’s goal in life is to ensure no woman ever has sex with them. Men want you to engage in sex with them, but they treat you badly afterwards because they hate women.
It’s like how men want women to be subservient house-servants who cook and clean without complaint, and then they turn around and slam those same women for being dependent, boring, or doormats. It doesn’t mean they want us to stop performing domestic labour for them, it just means they hate us.
Nothing we are doing in relation to men is standing up and doing things they hate to empower ourselves, unless we’re actively avoiding them and not centring them in our lives.”
Still not convinced? But wait there’s more! Did you want to see how quickly the shift happens in dudely behaviour from ‘possible happy sex times’ to let’s see how fast we can pile on the misogynistic insults. The bullshit dudes pull really turns a dime. Don’t believe me? Go see for yourself.
This is just a small sliver background of misogyny that we exist in and yes Dudebro’s it applies to you, because you let it go on around you. Your part in the equation is to stop the misogyny when your friends start in on, if you don’t then welcome to being part of the problem.
Religion and patriarchal bullshite usually go hand in hand. The Quiverfull movement proudly leads this toxic parade of misogyny, combining the worst of religion and misogyny all into one neat corrosive package.
Witness how much grievous stupidity can be gleaned from just one biblical verse:
“Children are a blessing and gift from the Lord.
Having a lot of children to take care of you in your old age is like a warrior with a lot of arrows.
Psalm 127:3-4″
Let the fun begin…
Usually we get to watch loopy christians say loopy stuff in support of their sincere belief in magic here on the the Disservice. Not so much fun today as we are going to look at how belief in magic can warp the moral fibre of people into condoning rape and the abuse of women. Let’s visit our new shitstain friend over at Christian Husbands.
[ed. I’m almost done and I really need to put a trigger warning on this post because this depraved example of humanity has written a how-to manual on how to dominate and rape your wife all the while being at one with with the loving christian god. This dude plumbs the depths of atrocious human behaviour and morality with the robotic smiley certainty that only absolute religious belief can bring about. Consider yourself warned.]
“As Christians who embrace God’s Word as the guide for our lives, we know that the Bible condones sex ONLY within the bounds of marriage.”
For an all powerful being god sure seems to be obsessed with sex and sexuality. I’m thinking the all-father has no fracks to give about human procreation, priests and clergy though, do have a rather large stiffy when it comes to controlling their flock.
“Our culture’s acceptance of pre-marital sex has been one of the major contributing factors to the decline in marriage, and the rise in cohabitation rates.”
You see, my dear fuck-witted christian misogynist, that is a load of shit. Dudes have been procuring copious amounts of sex from women outside the godly bounds of marriage both before and after the “sexual revolution”. So your problem isn’t premarital sex or cohabitation, it is the unseemly idea that women have choice and free will when it comes to choosing a relationship and their mates.
You know, sort of exercising the type of freedom men have had since day one. This sort of base level expression of female humanity and autonomy – fucks with your shit – and now I sense you’re going to attempt to justify how awesome it was in the good ole days when men were people – and women were not.
“Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for free?”
Or why get angry and frustrated by vapid christian stupidity when there plenty of other worthwhile causes to spend one’s mental resources on?
Good question, but usually it is the unseemly mix of ignorance, callous piety, and genuine disregard for ethical behaviour that flips enough switches for your moral homunculi to say ‘jumping frog guts, batman! – this amount of aberrant stupid is intolerable – battlestations!
Let’s get this front and centre. Women are not chattel nor are they animals in the sense that they can be bought and sold. Women possess the same level of humanity and autonomy that men do. Our society is sloooooooowly starting to get the idea that we don’t have a second class of people (women). Retrograde biblical shit-lords like BiblicalGenderRoles (BGR) want nothing to do with respecting women and autonomy; especially women outside of their patriarchally approved gender prison.
“I can hear it now – “What about those boys! This is not fair that all the pressure is on the women”. Yes the Scriptures command BOTH men and women to not engage in sex before marriage, and yes they did speak to us as young men about being godly men of integrity, about being gentlemen. However, if you examine the Scriptures closely, you will see that God places the greater burden on the woman to refuse the man. “
The first rule of misogyny is to blame women for the crummy behaviour of men. Quelle surprise! BGR is already going there, let’s watch and see.
“In the Old Testament law, a woman could be executed for not being a virgin when she was married, whereas there was no such punishment for a man that was not a virgin. I realize this goes against our modern “gender equality” ideas, but the Bible supports no such notion.”
Well, looky here! My magic book supports my misogyny because 2000 years ago people treated eachother horribly. We should replicate those norms because they happen to benefit me! Of course…Shitlord goes for broke and continues with the bovine/human female comparison…
“But once you have bought the cow, you ARE supposed to get the milk for free
One of the problems we face today in the Christian community (but it certainly is not limited to Christians) is that often times, even after we have waited, and “bought the cow” (married our wives), our wives expect us to “buy the milk” as well. I recently wrote a post responding to a Christian teacher’s false belief, that in marriage men do in fact have to “buy the milk”(earn sex), even after “buying the cow”(marrying a woman).”
BGR is all about the marital rape. We will now turn to his ugly rape apologia backed up, of course, by those sterling ethical standards found in the bible, for the rest of this episode. If you were ever wavering on the idea that ‘religion poisons everything’ please continue reading and your doubts will be assiduously quelled.
“A quick word on the “cow analogy” before we continue – in no way am I meaning disrespect toward women, or saying that cows are somehow equal to women, or that women are less human than men.”
What is truly abhorrent is that BGR, the High Christian Shitlord of Asstainistan, is aware that he is making an odious comparison. He has enough comprehension and remains of a moral compass to see what he is saying is wrong and hurtful to others. Watch what happens in the next sentence.
“But Biblically speaking, a wife does belong to her husband (men paid a “bride price” and one the terms for husband in the original languages of the Bible is “baal” which means “owner or master” (e.g. Proverbs 31). I Peter 3 says “Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord[master]“.
Did you see that?
Right there.
Right Fucking There.
That is how toxic religion is to ethical behaviour. I respect women, but my magical religious supersede any moral compuntions I might have and therefore she is not human and not equal, but rather she is property and thus should be treated as such.
(A small break while I gather my words and my amygdala calms down, lets look at some kittehs.)
Kitteh’s wonder how this dude can be so evil.
We’re always pointing out how crazy and terrible ISIL is with their savage acts against humanity, yet we have the exact same suspension of moral rectitude happening here for the exact same reason. Religious belief. It cannot be more starkly clear than what just happened above.
But hey, we need to get back to more biblical justification for immoral actions! Wheee!
“The fact is, in marriage, neither the husband, nor the wife, should have to earn sex. While husband’s denying their wives sexually is a problem sometimes, the vast majority of the time it is the wife denying her husband. Ask any pastor (and I have many pastor friends) and they will confirm this. Ask any marriage counselor, and they will confirm this as well.”
The fuck? You mean that woman are not machines you put kindness coins into until sex comes out? Unpossible!!! !!!
“But there is a difference between flat out denial, which some wives are guilty of, and a woman making her husband earn sex (but both are equally wrong). I once knew a Christian couple, where the only way the man got sex from his wife was when he did the dishes and picked up the house. For other men, it might be buying flowers for your wife, or taking her out to dinner. Please don’t misunderstand me, I don’t think it wrong for a husband to do these kinds of things for his wife, but these things should NEVER be a prerequisite to sex.”
Shitlord honestly believes that women should be subordinate to his penis. You fucking cave dwelling toad – women including your wife owe you exactly jackshit when it comes to sex or anything else. Your insidious world view precludes the idea that women are human beings that have say as to what happens to them. You don’t want a wife you want an obedient fuck-toy to take care of you and your important man-problems and now that women are realizing that submissive rape-toy is not their only role in life you are throwing a herculean mantrum because your ‘peen haz a sad.
You, DGR, are a pathetic, immoral, excuse of a human being, deserving of nothing but scorn and disdain. I happen to have lots of both on tap Shitlord, so lucky for us and bully for you.
“The sinful sexual pattern of modern women
Husbands listen to me, engaged men please hear me. There is a pattern that takes place in a lot of Christian marriages (and non-Christian marriages). At the beginning of the sexual relationship between a man and woman (which should begin after marriage, but sometimes it sinfully starts before marriage), women will give their husbands all the “free milk” they want. She lets him “taste the goods” so to speak.”
Oh, here we go speaking of patterns we’re about to set up the blame women for my important man problems (again).
“But not long into the marriage, the milk is no longer free of charge, it now comes at a cost. That cost looks very different from woman to woman, but there is a cost of some sort. For some Christian men, it might simply be household chores, for others it is buying jewelry or other gifts. For other husbands, it is making a decision the way their wife wants it, but they do not think is best.”
You mean that she probably has your children and house to tend to now and doesn’t have the energy for yoursexy times any more? Completely shocking that she has no energy after dealing with the kids and then going to work, and then coming home to the second shift, that she has no gas left in the tank to worship your ‘peen.
Breaks are required.
BGR you are a regressive antediluvian ass-clam. Access to pussy is not a fucking human right. Look down. You see that weird dongle at the end of your right arm – its your hand and magically, if you need to release your sexual desires it is just a rum-tug-tuggle away; as a special bonus you don’t need an oppressed class of people to help you do that (unless you are categorically pants-on-head retarded, which I suspect is the case).
How BGR writes is a special treat because he always says something absolutely terrible and then manages in the next paragraph to say something even worse. It must be a special power granted only to those of the Christian Shitlord persuasion.
“What all these different prerequisites have in common is, they require a man to transfer his God given authority over his home, his children, and his wife and yes even his wife’s body to his wife. Only if they do the bidding of their wife, will she give them “the goods”.
Repeat after me Shitlord – “My wife is not my property, she is not my fuck-toilet, she is a human being who has the same rights and bodily autonomy that I do, she “owes” me NOTHING”. In the paragraph above you are contemplating that fact that if you treat your wife as a human being you can’t dominate her and own her like slave. Not having a slave is making you and your ‘peen sad.
From the rest of us who still retain their moral compass: You, Shitlord, are a monster. Know that.
“How to stop this wicked pattern
For you engaged men, or newlywed husbands it will be much easier if you spot this change in your wife and nip it in the bud right away. If you allow this pattern to go on for years of marriage, it only becomes harder (but not impossible) to break. Whether you have been married 6 months, or 6 years, the fix is still the same.”
Shorter Shitlord: How to crush my wife’s spirit and humanity (this was so much easier when it was okay to beat women into submisson) and turn her into the fuck toilet you deserve. (Spoiler: The bible says its okay!!!)
“When your wife tells you “If you do ___________ for me, then I will do that for you”, you need to sit down and take out the Word of God. You must see this as God sees it, as an act of rebellion against your authority over her (and her body), and by extension as an act of rebellion against God himself, because he has given her to you. You need to rebuke your wife’s sinful behavior.”
I can’t even… Women are people, your failure to recognize this fact illustrates the huge gap in your ethics and your reasoning. You have no ‘authority’ over anyone. You are invoking you magic book to justify oppressing another human being. This is past heart of darkness level of depravity and evil. BGR, you need to seek help because you are failing at basic humanity and empathy.
“Take her to I Corinthians and read the Word of God to her:
“Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.” – I Corinthians 7:3-5(KJV)”
Scare tactics, shame, threats of violence are all considered abuse in this modern secular age. I suggest you get with the fucking program, despite the ‘wisdom’ of your magic book.
“The Bible places absolutely NO preconditions on sex between a husband and wife within the bounds of marriage (contrary to what many Christian books and teachers teach today). In fact the only mutual agreement a couple is called to is, when they STOP having sex for a given period.”
My magic book says that rape is okay, therefore rape is okay and should be encouraged… I’m going to start skipping some stuff as really, the theme that god says its okay to rape women is being done to death.
“After you confront your wife’s rebellion (not only towards God’s command to her, but by extension the authority he has given you) – she is not exactly going to be in the mood, if you know what I mean. It may feel as though you have been unloving to her, but you are in fact loving your wife when you call out her sin, and call her to repentance, just as God calls to all of us.”
After you berate and threaten your wife she might not be in the mood, go figure, you pernicious fuck. See how Patriarchy is interwoven into the very core of religion? See how tightly they collude to force women into submission. The House in Vegas is envious of this system that so effectively combats women’s status as human beings.
“Your wife’s rebellion against your sexual authority over her body is by definition “unrighteousness”. You would in essence, be “unloving” to your wife, from God’s perspective, if you allowed her sinful attitude to go unchecked.”
Gaa… Sexual authority? How about this, go fuck you and your ‘sexual authority’ sideways with the cacti of your choice.
“But should you still have relations with your wife after such a confrontation?
I believe the answer is yes, if she yields to you (even with the wrong attitude). When I first had to confront my wife with these types of issues, I would confront her, and then just leave the sex to happen another night, because after all, I like most men don’t prefer to have sex with my wife when she acts grumpy about it.
Holy fuck – you are advocating raping your wife.
But I realized that the sex still needs to occur, that sex is not about being in the mood, and it is not about feelings, it is about doing what is right. I agree whole heartedly that the best sex a Christian couple can have is when they are spiritually, emotionally and physically connected all at once. But the truth is there will be many times when we don’t have all that in place, but we must still have sex. God wants us to do the right thing, even when we don’t feel like it.”
You are a rapist. The authorities should be notified immediately.
“This probably won’t be a onetime thing
As a Christian husband, and really just as a Christian, we must realize that we all from time to time slip back into patterns of sinful behavior. Please don’t think that if your wife seems to submit to your sexual authority over her body after confronting her with the truth of God’s Word, that this rebellion will never seep back up again in her life. This has definitely not been a onetime thing with my wife, and I have also talked with other Christian men who have told me it is the same with their wives as well.”
This also abuse. Saying no to a sexual advance is NEVER sinful behaviour. Never ever. You are in this paragraph admitting that you are regularly raping your wife and using the bible to justify your criminal behaviour. I hear ISIL is looking for a few good men and let me assure you, you fit their qualifications admirably.
“Can my Christian wife ever say no to my sexual advances?
This is the logical question you as a Christian husband (or engaged man) might ask after everything we have just looked at. The answer to this question is a Christian wife should never give her husband a flat no, BUT she can humbly and gently ask for a delay. There may be legitimate physical or other issues that might prompt your wife to ask you for a delay. But this must be done humbly and respectfully, and always with the attitude in mind that her body does belong to her husband. But a Christian wife should ALWAYS make good on her “rainchecks” with her husband. Also these “delay requests” from wives should be the exception, and not the normal response to a husband’s sexual advances.”
Oh how beneficent is this? The sex slave can ask for a temporary halt to the rape train – how fucking convivial.
This person and their thoughts sicken me. This sort of attitude toward women has no place in a civilized society. This sick fuck should be in prison, end of story.
For more hilarity(?), see Violet Wisp’s take-down of this rapist’s post.
A kitteh pick me up before you go. See you soon. :)
I’m curious as to how many times we need to see incidents like this. Misogyny via the expression of normative patriarchal values at it very finest in dear old Cowtown. Go take a look at the clip from CBC Calgary with reporter Meghan Grant.
“FHRITP — or f–k her right in the p—y — is a phrase men scream at (for the most part) female reporters. It’s rude, it’s degrading and it’s harassment. It’s happened before. It’ll probably happen again. But today was different. Since the Flames made the playoffs, I’ve heard numerous stories from reporter friends of harassment along the Red Mile. So-called fans screaming obscenities at reporters. So-called fans trying to get women to show their breasts. So-called fans behaving badly in the name of the Flames. Today, I’m doing a story on the #SafeRedMile movement. People doing things in an effort to discourage harassment (often sexual) along 17th Avenue during and after games.”
Well.
Two dude bros took it upon themselves to share their very important opinion (laced with male entitlement) with Meghan and the world. And here is the very best part – when women complain about stupid misogynistic shit like this they are not taken seriously, or dismissed as generalizing.
Well.
Of course #NOTALLMEN! … (warning on video for misogyny, harassment and language).
What many #notallmen defenders seem not to realize is that there is a critical mass of men out there that condone this sort of behaviour. It may not be *you* personally or your mates, but this shit is prevalent enough that it still remains socially acceptable to do so. So dudes, are you feeling unfairly accused, indignant even that you would be so slavishly generalized about?? Let me assure you, being catcalled and harassed like this is *far* worse than the righteous rage you may be feeling.
So suck it up, man up, and call this shit out when you see it happening around you because the female half of the human race should not have to deal with this kind of harassment (that happens daily).
We can see the #NotAllMen at work in the comments section, allow me to highlight a few…
i am a man and i do not shout things like this at anyone, yet this reporter chooses to stereotype all men as engaging in this behaviour. this story is offensive to me as a man, and sexist.
Fascinating. Obviously if I am not doing it, it cannot be a thing. But my feelings are hurt because men as class tend to act this way toward women. We need to focus more on my manfeels and less on those women being catcalled and harassed.
- Tape_to_Tape
The FHRITP is a small issue completely blown out of proportion by the media.
Is it crude? Yes. Is it considered unacceptable behaviour? Yes. Does it represent more than 1% of men or sports fans? NO.
It seems the CBC can’t get enough on this issue. Be done with it already and move on!!
Oh this is all just trivial shit as it never happens to me so can we please just move on as it clearly isn’t a problems for dudes…
Is it a remote possibility that somehow the “man” in truck collaborated with the interviewer?
Maybe just a strange coincidence?
*Cue X-files music* – It must be a conspiracy by those damn double XXers to make men look bad! Unpossible! Ibeing a man, am offended that people like me do this, thus rather than try to see the problem I’ll label a conspiracy so I don’t have to change one fucking iota.
Being female in our society presents a different set of challenging obstacles that women must face *every* day. I suggest that we start listening to, rather than dismissing, what women have to say.
One of the most refreshing experiences a feminist can be graced with, it is positively bracing I do declare, is having an entitled white dude explain to them what is wrongity-wrong-wrong with Feminism. I’m not sure what is more alluring, a dude’s decisive grasp of the basic tenets of feminist thought or their keen focus on what feminism should be about. Both are lobe expanding/enhancing experiences.
The influx of dudely commentary on the feminism tag seems positively correlated to the collective male apoplexy otherwise known as “GamerGate” a loose organization of dudes purportedly about ethics in game journalism (who the fuck cares about game journalism?) which, in actuality, is a movement committed to defending the misogyny that permeates much of gaming “culture”. The defense of misogyny in society is always accompanied by the harassment of women who dare to speak against the dude-approved status quo; let me assure you their is no lack of harassment toward females in this grand movement.
I digress from the twittering musings of the RPOJ, but I feel that a little background was(is) necessary to adequately frame where our next featured writer is coming from. Imagine, gentle reader: Hadrian’s Wall or the Black Gate from Tolkien, or even “The Wall” from Game of Thrones. Our dudely protagonist clearly places himself defending these bastions of masculinity against the ravening feminists hoards that seek only to pull down all that is good and just, not only the arena of gaming, but dare I say, the world. Our embattled protagonist must mount a fierce defense of his fiefdom as clearly, being in the majority, at the top of the social and cultural power gradients, basically the world being designed for him – is in moral peril of the threat of women being included in his world and being treated as human beings. This is a grave threat that cannot, nay… belay that, must not be ignored.
The fainting whirling you hear in the background is the stirring of the eyebrows of feminists who see this sad/enraging/sardonic (stupefying?) metaphor constantly being used by dudes to frame the oppression of men by the evil forces of feminism – only ruin can follow if the feminists are not put to a halt.
See if you can spot “The Wall” in the musty musings of this anal polyp also known as The Asylum. Our friend The Ass-Plum (I know, it writes itself some days) has written a real charmer of a post entitled “Fuck Off Feminists – part 1“. Catchy title, but do you think that with his laser like concision, our dude will stay on target and deal with this weighty statement with the due amount of charity and accuracy or; will he make shit up while beating straw feminism to death and recycle MRA talking points while talking through his hat?
The wiggling Red Pen of Justice cannot be forestalled any further – Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more. But when the blast of war blows in our ears, Then imitate the action of the kitteh!!
“OK so the title has probably got some people’s backs up, and to be honest good, as it will later be stated that those are the people who in fact just prove my point further.”
Fascinatingly enough, starting by insulting the group you’re about to pontificate about is a fairly common tactic. Do note that being as asshole is the Plan A here. Fuck discourse, fuck measured debate, and of course a heaping plate of fuck you to civility.
“Firstly, I am not for one second that the great voices of the female past such as Pankhurst should be forgotten, merely that the movement, along with many others, has now been bastardised beyond recognition.”
Nor are you keen with the proof reading, but full marks for telling us who women should venerate and who they should not – clearly within your dudely purview.
“I will take this moment now to state I am not going to use “scientific answers”,”
In best “Data” Voice: But captain, this is magnificent case of rectal cranial reversal! He is saying the facts of the situation don’t matter, but his very important opinion does. Oh, to what depths will you fall you magnificent Ass-Plum of a human being.
“I am merely using my site to state that I am sick to the back teeth of so many pro women feminists out there twisting every single article or statement into a debate about how women are suffering at the hand of the tyrannical male, newsflash – its people who suffer at the hands of people not just women at the hand of man.”
Those women. They are responsible for everything bad about the world, it is and always shall be their fault. Oh, and I’ll throw in some bullshit equality talk in a Pyrrhic attempt to make me look like less of douche.
“Oh, and by the way I am Not a woman-hater in any shape or form,”
Ah, then Ass-Plum dearest, how do you explain the title of this article? Hmm?
“nor am I deliberately or intentionally misogynistic,”
But if it happens, so be it? – *watches ass-plum shrug*. Yep, a true gentlemen we have here.
“however I do believe that no matter how much we advance there are always going to be certain roles that either Gender is predisposed to have a better “success” rate at.”
Really? And how would you measure that binky? How would you control for the wide variation in male and female socialization to be able to make that sweeping claim. And really gender is about oppression and is a societal construct that must be dismantled, along with patriarchy in order for our society to evolve.
““You don’t understand!” ” You’re just being a typical man!” “We have always had it harder than men so we are entitled to this attitude!” and the great one “we only want equality””
But Ass-Plum, **you** really don’t understand, you exhibit demonstrable white male privilege and entitlement and as we’ll see are generally clueless about the topic you’ve chosen to discuss.
” Well hello even a look at the dictionary definition of Feminism highlights just how warped the movement has become the correct definition being”
Ah, because the world is precisely demarcated by what the OED says, especially when it comes to complex sociological topics. Dealing with qualities that individuals possess though, woo, dictionaries are great take for instance this, as it applies to you (As an aside: since when does looking shit up in a dictionary qualify as ‘research’):
“ignoramus – [ig-nuh–rey-muh s, –ram–uh s] – 1.an extremely ignorant person. ” Well, if that isn’t you down to a “T” I don’t know what is.
Ass-Plum having at least a little bit of clue in finding definitions went to the OED, but was completely stumped by the second part of the definition he found.
“A ‘second wave’ of feminism arose in the 1960s, with an emphasis on unity and sisterhood; seminal figures included Betty Friedan and Germaine Greer”
“So there in a nut shell is how warped it has become, the original movement was to give women the same rights as men – which is more than deserved and should not ever be thought of as anything but correct. However, then the second wave started promoting sisterhood, creating an “all girls together” us against the world, we can do as we wish and man has to put up with it, attitude.”
I hate to break it to you Skippy, but the the only ones who get to say when the feminist revolution is over are women. Our fruit-enhanced punter also seems to think that women organizing and displaying signs of solidarity within their class is a somehow a bad thing. He, like most men attempting to mansplain feminism, miss/ignore the historical relevance of what each wave brought/brings to the table. I’m not your history teacher, Grasshopper, read more about the Waves of Feminism here.
“Which is itself prioritising one gender at the disregard of the other.”
I see this so fracking much in discussions of feminism. What is “this”, well this dear reader is the dark shard of ignorance that drives so much of hot air that eminates from people when they have “serious” discussions about feminism.
It starts with a mindset that somehow the here and now that both women and men are treated equally in society. Evidentially speaking, this is not the case, see socialization, pay gap, harassment etc. Here is my theory – because generally many white dudes get a fair shake in society (that and having their norms reflected and embedded) they somehow think that others that don’t look like them, have the same experience.
The other aspect of why dudes say the stupidest things is a keenly developed ahistorical narrative in which the oppression of women is minimized or erased entirely. Please dudes just read History Matters and Against our Will they will serve as preventative tonics against you sounding so earth shatteringly ignorant.
“Not Equality and therefore not true Feminism, so to those who state read the definition, I Say to you, I HAVE.”
You sir, would not know Feminism if bit you in the ass.
“Further to that now I believe there is a much more damaging 3rd wave of feminists about who thanks to a friend who uses the term so well, we will
call “feminazi” and their intent is to completely reverse the times of old and create essentially a female controlled and led society where males are seen as a lower species. “
Wow, just wow. Because the liberation of women is just like Fascism!!! Right here, right now witness the manly construction of a straw argument. Third Wave feminism is about creating a society dominated by women, essentially replacing patriarchy with matriarchy!
Jesus-fuck. The hysterical men-children have broke loose because the big bad feminists are encroaching on their domain. By encroaching I mean demanding that women be treated as full human beings.
*sigh forever*
“You may think this is a bit of an extreme over reaction,”
No shit, Sherlock.
“sadly it is not, nor is the use of the word “feminazi” in fact you could dissect the word two ways and it would still make the current movement inseparable from the phrase.”
*thump* It was sound of hundreds of heads hitting hundreds of desks. But at least Ass-Plum is doing definitions again, as it has been so helpful to his cause…
“[1] Femi-Nazi – A movement designed to seek control over society, through manipulation of the community and through an environment of fear. “
Oh you mean like the environments women must navigate through *all the time* in society because their status as human beings is almost always in question?
“[2] Femin-azi – “A spin on Papparazi , the horrible scurge of the Human race who, think they have a right to invade people in their own personal space and spread some idle gossip or half truth in order to glorify themselves and or promote their own self-worth and gain, who will think nothing of terrorising and controlling individuals until they achieve their end goal”
Ah yes because men are regularly sent rape and death threats for speaking out in female dominated spheres of interest…
“See Both work.”
Both actually prove that the three working neurons you possess took the fucking day off.
” Not to mention the trivialisation of RAPE. Yes People, I said it, the worlds second most abhorrent crime is being trivialised by supposed pro equality and pro female rights groups, in many ways and this is a major worry for me. “
Wait, what?
“Sadly we will never irradiate this act but again,”
The rest of his commentary must be positively glowing with fact.
“Point One, it does happen to Men as well as women, there is no need to either hide or promote a “certain statistic” that will validate your claim, Rape is about power, Power is not gender specific, Sorry but it’s not.”
1.What about teh Menz!
2. Power gradients in society, what the fuck are they?
3. I know nothing of history therefore I can be this much of fuck-wit.
I need Ass-Plum to come up for air soon, the stupid is becoming suffocating. Power is not gender specific, also just in: The Sun orbits the Earth…
“If I go out and get a bit drunk and end up waking up next to a girl who I didn’t know the night before, then that is a pretty good night,”
Because your experience is everyone’s experience. Dammit, I’m going to need a heavy grade shower-poof to exfoliate all this dudely entitlement off.
“It is not me becoming a sex pest, if that was the case then most men in the world would be serial rapists, and again I state so would many women.”
Because consent is hard (?). Treating women like they were a part of humanity is not that big of a stretch, try it some time.
“People should not have to get written consent before every single act of a sexual nature takes place for fear of being put up on charges, and while im on the subject and just to clarify further”
Because making sure she wants to participate with you in said activity might ruin your boner. You can fuck right-off jerkstick.
“Anyway, basically what im trying to say, in my own clumsy way, is that Rape is a disgusting and vile act and the actual “act” should not be lessened by the over use or application of the word to situations that in fact are just “mistakes” or in some cases, Fun.”
Oh because those darn women mistaking rape for FUN! You contemptible asshole of the first degree. Your defense of rape culture is disgusting.
“Sadly, I am not sure how we can move forward from this, as it appears to just be another example of how modern day society is intent on tearing itself apart, however , let me try to put it to you really simply,”
We can move forward when dipshits such as yourself are struck repeatedly with a clue by four until you get some basic contextual idea of what is actually happening in society and not the nilly-willy full of shit-to-the-gills self-serving narrative that you’ve had excruciatingly turned to “11” this entire post.
“Does anyone have the “right” to be racist , just because they’re ancestors were wrongly treated?”
I don’t even know what this means. My best guess is Clownus-Maximus is trying an inverted racism argument because uppity black people/women/minorities disquiet his precious status-quo.
“Does anyone religion have the “right” to control other belief systems just because of theirs?”
Awww Br
o! Why Can’t We All Just Get Along? – And by get along we do mean the way in which society functions that continues to directly and indirectly benefit me (the great white-dude).
“No, and nor does any one GENDER have a right to Control the other.”
Ass-Plum, your ignorance must constantly endanger your life. Get yourself to a library, stat!
“Now, I could continue by going into the rights and wrongs of gender specific roles and situations, and how we as society create these situations ourselves, almost from birth, by the “preconceptions” of Boy is Blue, Girl is Pink, Barbie vs Action Man, etc,”
Oh god, please don’t! My irony meter just committed seppuku like three paragraphs back…
“however to be honest, im getting a bit hungry and tired now so am off to find the nearest Tavern and local wench ;) so that will have to wait,”
There are small mercies in this world, the firehose of ignorant bullshit has ceased. Hallelujah!
As a new added feature of the RPOJ we get a Shakespearean Insult hand culled from the internets.
Dear Ass-Plum,
See Above.
It is amazing the amount of turgid self serving drivel that gets posted these days about Gamer Gate. We’ll investigate today, one individual along with the trusty RPOJ (Red Pen of Justice), embattled gamer -“Maverick”- and his quest to achieve victory over Anita Sarkeessian and the evil wimmenz gamers in general. This post is about Anita’s recent appearance on the Colbert Report and what a crafty manipulator she is. Let’s look at the video first just to get some context of what is going on here.
“I have watched the interview of Anita Sarkeesian on The Colbert Report. I called it, the interview was all about how Anita is a victim and we gamers are bad people. I am not surprised by this in the least. When you have a battle where it is the people who take in journalism vs. the journalists, this is how it goes. “
You mean the person who has been the subject of online harassment, rape and death threats for years gets to speak about her experience then *you* get to use victim in a pejorative sense? What fucking planet are you from dude?
“Journalists side with their own, and because mainstream culture is out of touch with the issues that sparked GamerGate, on the heels of some BRILLIANT marketing by women like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian, we are being singled out as the enemy.”
Woah, slow down their Mr. Tinfoil hat. Professional journalists follow a code of ethics and ‘siding with their own’ would happen only if the facts of the matter dictated thus. You see my gamergater friend if this was actually about ethics, the focus would be on the collusion that does take place between game production companies and game journalists. Strangely though, most the focus seems to be on how amazingly “reprehensible” these damn woman are – Anita Sarkeesian, Zoe Quinn and Brianna Wu. Your analysis, Maverick does not deviate from the usual misogyny and victim blaming that gamergate is known for.
” You are the single-greatest professional victim I have ever seen. You have branded your name and gotten fame all on the coattails of you being a victim. Your audience doesn’t care about why of who. They only care that you are upset, and they are upset. You know how easy it is to exploit your audience, so you do. That is impressive.”
Wow Maverick your brazen victim-blaming makes you eligible for high-douchlord status. Congratulations?
“And so, a zealot by the name of McIntosh got ahold of you, and thus began your rise to fame. For McIntosh, I believe that it is genuine. I’ve read some of his older stuff, and that guy is a Looney Tune.”
Ah, because a woman couldn’t possibly do this herself. I’m guessing that Maverick, the noble defender of the status-quo, is also a firm believer in ‘equality’ too.
“But you, you are too smart for that. You’ve come to realize how easy it is to sell your cause. After all, you got your cause to get you $160,000.
And don’t tell me how far that money went. Come on. You made videos that were of the same caliber as your old ones. Your ‘research’ was using people’s Let’s Play footage. You never show any context in your videos, because you don’t know any”
Wow, these dudes never forget the butthurt. Maverick, hates….just hates that fact that a Kickstarter project started by Anita was resoundingly well funded by people seeing the need for the feminist analysis of video games. Despite that fact that this was known upfront, and people made the donations of their own free will we still get shit like this.
Furthermore, making general claims based on zilch means nothing outside of your toxic community. So this is just your baseless opinion.
“You didn’t even do the bare minimum of research. This was just finding clips and using the right rhetoric to get your audience to get all huffed-up and angry. It was a calculated decision.”
You’re making that claim of “no research” based on what? It would seem that there in the Feminist Frequency videos there is a list of sources consulted. I imagine feminist theory does sound like rhetoric to you, but like instead of adult behaviour of actually addressing the points brought up by Anita and her video’s you engage in name calling and attacks on Anita’s credibility. It’s almost like you know that if you actually addressed the issues, you’d lose.
“You are now famous because of the threats. You are famous because of the anger, which you are able to hold up. That recent threat that you got when you were going to speak at USU, you couldn’t have asked for better timing. It elevated you to mainstream acceptance. Now, I bet raising another $160,000 would be child’s play. Hell, I bet that you are going to get a lot of money from here.”
Exposing the misogynistic undercurrent of our culture – who would have thunk that would be a popular topic? Anita is famous because douche-lords like yourself can’t handle criticism. And you get nasty when you’re called on fact that your treasured status-quo is shite.
“You are a con artist, Anita. A very, very good con artist.”
No, actually she’s a woman whom, despite the huge threat to her, continues to call out and expose the misogyny in “gamer-culture” despite the toxic backlash she has to endure.
Confused about the who Gaming Gate fiasco? Go to the Ace of Geek for a comprehensive run down on how badly this “movement” fails.
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