“Feminism requires precisely what misogyny destroys in women: unimpeachable bravery in confronting male power.”
-Andrea Dworkin, Woman Hating.
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11 comments
January 2, 2016 at 9:01 am
stchauvinism
Reblogged this on Stop Trans Chauvinism.
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January 2, 2016 at 7:10 pm
carlalouise89
This is perfect.
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January 2, 2016 at 7:17 pm
carlalouise89
Reblogged this on The Melodramatic Confessions of Carla Louise and commented:
Some men seem afraid of the word ‘feminism’ or the idea of ‘feminists’. It’s something I’ve never understood; even if you don’t like the ideals feminism stands for (for some strange reason because feminism = equality, but okay, your call on what you label yourself) why are some people afraid of a movement that strives to do good? Why do people focus on the few feminists – both men and women – who do the ‘wrong’ thing in feminism? That’s like me judging all Christians for a certain cult or the crusades or the Nazi regime; or blaming all Catholics because of a few priests; or blaming all atheists because of Stalin.
I guess, the only thing to do, is to fight misogyny with bravery, like Andrew Dworkin says.
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January 2, 2016 at 7:51 pm
wallacecass
It’s not about fear. It’s about being told that you’re evil oppressors every day for 40+ years because you are male. Equality of opportunity is a good thing as far as I’m concerned. The problem, as I see it, with Feminism is that it’s too angry to realize that when you denigrate people who have nothing to do with your problem, you create people who walk away and ignore your message. I grew up during the era when people like Dworkin and Solanas were running around talking about hurting men. All men, not specific individuals. Plus, I’m against anything that promotes favoritism, but that’s a topic for another day. :)
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January 3, 2016 at 7:51 am
The Arbourist
@wallacecass
Hi Wallace, welcome to DWR.
Membership in the dominant class is head and shoulders a better experience than having to be in the oppressed class.
It will be nice when that happens. Although I think we have a different formulation of what ‘equal opportunity’ is.
Need to break a few eggs to make an omelette.
I think men can handle it considering the vast volume of literature produced every day the denigrates, objectifies, and hurts women.
The struggle to emancipate women from the patriarchal structures of society has little to do with favouritism, but rather in regaining the humanity that is justly owed to women in society.
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January 3, 2016 at 8:43 am
roughseasinthemed
I don’t perceive feminsm to be an angry message. Why so? What is angry about wanting to right injustice?
Denigrates who? Everyone who denies that women are oppressed, victimised, discriminated against, assaulted, raped, and killed?
All that feminists ask for is a life equal to that lived by men. For example, do you laugh at sexist comments or jokes, so-called rape jokes etc? Do you actually suggest to other men that their behaviour is demeaning to women? Because basically, everyone, every day, has something to do with sexism.
And if you think you have nothing to do with the problem, that says it all. Better than I could ever have put it.
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January 3, 2016 at 1:13 pm
wallacecass
Well stated.
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January 7, 2016 at 1:06 am
Francois Tremblay
The fuck is wrong with you. Calling an oppressed group angry is part of the playbook of bigotry. You are a bigot, dude.
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January 7, 2016 at 4:47 pm
The Arbourist
@Francois Tremblay
I assume that was aimed at Brain in a Jar (SfB) and not me.. :)
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January 7, 2016 at 6:12 pm
Francois Tremblay
That was addressed at wallacecass. I guess replies aren’t noted very clearly on here…
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January 7, 2016 at 7:12 pm
The Arbourist
@FT
I hate nesting, hence the “@” nomenclature.. :) I assumed as much, but always good to be sure.
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