Welcome to part 5 of my in depth exposition on why I don’t want to have children.
I. Intro + Stage 1: Initial Shock
II. Stage 2: The Demand for Answers part A
III. Stage 2: The Demand for Answers part B
IV. Stage 2: The Demand for Answers part C
V. Stage 3: The Rebuttal + Wrap up
We’ve done quite a lot to show that reproduction is a very bad idea. Despite all the reasons explored in Stage 2, parts A, B, and C, The Breeder is resilient. Privy to the other side of the coin, they are ready to share all the reasons I ought to be poppin’ out youngin’s. Let’s look at the most common of these in:
Stage 3: The Rebuttal
“You change when you have one / it’s different when it’s your own”
To my ear, this translates to, “if you let biology mess with you, biology will mess with you”. Oh boy! Hormones will make me lower my standards, scramble my values, but make me think I’m happy about it? I’ll pass, thanks. The effect is analogous to that of heroine. Before you have any, you can clearly see all the negatives. As soon as you try it yourself, though, your biology gets you hooked on it. From then on your happiness is dependant on keeping up your habit. It doesn’t matter how objectively anyone demonstrates how much the child/heroine is detrimental to your life, nothing can make you give it up.
“You’ll regret not breeding/You won’t be fulfilled until you do”
This is just another version of the very first initial reaction back in Stage 1. Like responsibility, fulfillment can be realized in a multitude of ways. Your zeal for this one source does not devalue all others. Check your arrogance and tunnel vision at the door.
“What if the love of your life wants to have children?”
By now it should be clear that there is a pretty big difference between how The Breeder and I see the world. Thus anyone who wants kids cannot possibly be the “love of my life”. The Breeder might insist, ‘but what if, otherwise, she is THE ONE?? You’d be giving up life long happiness just because you’re stubborn’. No. Caving to values I don’t share would be giving up life long happiness just to get a constant companion to accompany me in my poorer life. Further, the entire concept of‘The one’ is total bullshit. Relationships are built, not discovered. That is, success depends on partners finding someone who is more or less aligned with each other. Then, through work, communication, and experience, each grows into the little gaps that used to separate them. The One perfect match is a naive fairy tale. Time to grow up.
“What if your parents thought like you do? You wouldn’t be here.”
This is pretty ridiculous, but I hear it all the time. My knee jerk reaction is to point out that people benefit from the bad choices of others all the time. That in no way obliges you or makes it desirable to repeat those bad choices.

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For any shining examples of happy parents with happy children who all make the world a better place by their very existence, I point once again to the survivor bias. I consider myself unimaginably fortunate and I am filled with gratitude for the people and circumstances that have saved me from countless terrors that plague so many people. There’s no reason to think any foray into the child-rearing world I undertake will go anywhere near as well. And finally, the argument simply doesn’t follow. Let’s try the form with a substitution, say the first interracial couplings. ‘What if your parents went abroad for a mate instead of finding each other in their own country? You wouldn’t be here, thus it’s a bad idea’. Doesn’t sound so clever any more, does it? So much had to happen for me to be here, it would be impossible to respect and replicate all of it. Further, me being here isn’t that special. Sure, I personally think it’s pretty important, but I also recognize that that sentiment is quite heavily biased.
“Who will look after you when you’re old?”
The $250,000.00+ I saved by not procreating. Next?
“I think you’d make a great parent.”
And if you committed 20 years and $250k to scrubbing out portable toilets with your own toothbrush, I’m sure you’d get pretty good at that, too.
“You have no fitness, evolutionarily speaking.”
Yes, I’ve actually had someone say this to me. Why would anyone consider their own fitness from an evolutionary standpoint? One of the greatest side effects of the capacity for abstract thought that our species has developed is that we are now the orchestrators of meaning and purpose. Instead of being slaves to instinct, we have within us the potential to point our efforts in any direction, to any goal we deem worthy of our attention. There are no mosquitoes working on ways to reduce the spread of malaria, so as to treat their food sources more ethically. There are no angler fish fighting for the end of sex inequality. There are no stand up comedian squirrels. To reduce my ambitions to what my biology urges want from me is to deny my humanity. But on top of being misguided, this point is also uninformed. As a member of society I interact with a great many people. These interactions will leave impressions and influence future behaviour of those I encounter. Behavioural adaptation is just as key to evolution as its physical counterpart. If anything, it’s more important, as I will show in answering a related rebuttal:
“No one will carry on your name”
It amuses me when a group claiming moral superiority uses an appeal to vanity to justify their position. I can think of no greater example of hubris than the thought, “Humanity needs MY genetics, or the world is lost!” And it’s just so very stupid. Humans are all related and it doesn’t matter.

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Like “races”, names are superficial and empty divisions. As a species, we get a common ancestor for all humanity every 2000 years or so. That is, a couple millennia ago there was a person that everyone alive today is related to. There is someone alive today that will be related to every single person alive in the year 4000 (assuming we last that long). On top of that, an individuals genetics is completely washed out of the gene pool in about 1000 years. For a species that’s around 300,000 years old, that’s a pretty quick reset rate. Thus, individually, you breeders will have about as much affect on future generations as I will. Or perhaps, as I go about my day trying to make the world a better place while you’re busy cleaning up poop, my life efforts will be more long lasting and beneficial to the species than yours will.
“If everyone followed your lead, humanity would end!”
This one overestimates my leadership to an embarrassing degree. It is never the case that everyone follows my lead. It doesn’t matter how often I’m right, or how much I support my position, people just don’t want to listen. Even if, somehow, this is the one time in my life I end up being a global trend setter, humanity will not be in danger. Biology will ensure there will still be accidental conceptions. The rare few people who actually should be parents and who want to be parents will still go ahead. The only possible result of my views being well received is that there are fewer humans born, especially fewer humans doomed to an existence of pain and misery. “Yeah, but what if??” Ok, fine. Humanity ceases to be. So what? It’s not like we’re the nicest species about. From a very interesting anti-natalism article, David Benatar writes, “If any other species caused as much damage as humans do, we would think it wrong to breed new members of that species”. Or, if you’re more inclined towards pop culture references
While this might be considered a bit pessimistic, the reasoning is fairly solid. The human race will eventually die out. The question of ‘when’ only really matters to whatever organisms that happen to continue to exist after our demise. From their point of view, would it be better if our inevitable extinction came sooner or later? And from our perspective, would we rather come to some abrupt horrific end, or gradually dwindle our population to zero? I’d say the latter sounds more pleasant by far.
Wrap Up
And there are the three stages dealt with. The Breeder’s grab bag of cookie cutter responses and anecdotal reasoning is nothing more than a flimsy veil, covering arrogance and insecurity. To the rare exceptions out there that actual do well at parenting and truly enjoy it, I must tip my hat. Their contributions to their children, and ultimately society as a whole, cannot be understated. But to The Breeder, I say this: those great parents are in the minority. Most people should never breed, especially if they must be coerced into doing so. The raising of children is just too critical a job to be placed in the hands of the inept. Forsake your romantic notions and myths surrounding procreation. At the very least, leave us non-breeders be while you mindlessly multiply us into oblivion.
13 comments
December 1, 2017 at 6:19 am
bob
Your series and it’s perspective would do a great service to have it included in the public school curriculum. I suspect though that organized religion and capitalism in general would resist that.
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December 1, 2017 at 6:52 am
john zande
The bad parasite kills its host.
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December 1, 2017 at 9:02 am
Mystro
@bob
Thank you for saying so, but you are correct. Religions survive by breeding more members. Capitalism survives on billions of exploitable people and being able to grind them into dust.
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December 1, 2017 at 9:17 am
Mystro
@john zande
As long as host population reproduces at a greater rate than the parasite kills them, there’s no problem for the parasite. In some cases, the demise of the host is crucial to the parasite’s life cycle. There’s a flatworm that “encourages” it’s snail host to be eaten by birds. And there’s a fungus that compels ants to leave the colony, climb atop a nearby plant, and die while the fungus sprouts out of the ant’s head. Oh the beauty and goodness of nature!
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December 1, 2017 at 9:24 am
john zande
LOL! Natural theology was doomed from it’s inception.
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December 1, 2017 at 8:21 pm
Meg
@Mystro, if people hate you for simply not wanting to have kids, I am pretty sure they would think I’m the devil incarnate.
Not only do I think most people should not have kids, I am also unapologetically pro-abortion. Well I am technically pro-choice but I prefer an outcome of abortion to an outcome to adoption or a lifetime of struggling to raise a child that might kill you in your sleep later. I think birth control and sterilization should be free, if not mandatory for people who have a documented history of abusive and violent behavior.
It’s not because I don’t like babies. If someone’s baby is screaming in a public place, I don’t mind. It’s what babies do! Toddlers are hell on two legs but I still think they are adorable when they try to talk to me in public.
Whether or not I like babies isn’t the point.
Most people are too fucked up to have kids – especially the ones who want kids. The ones who want kids the most are usually the ones who should never ever have them. This is just something I’ve noticed. Well I am also an American so I am technically speaking about Americans. Especially since Trump became president, I don’t think most Americans should be breeding at all, if all “we” are going to breed is stupidity and violent extremism.
IMO people who tell women to have babies are sexist. Women’s oppression is based on biological reproduction so in our enlightened “woke” world of social justice, NOBODY should EVER be telling women to have kids any more than they would use a racial slur. If they care about equality one bit they wouldn’t even touch the subject with a ten foot pole and leave it totally up to the woman. Abortion clinics would be abundant in every area of the country, open 24/7 in the event a woman needs one. In a world of SEVEN AND A HALF BILLION PEOPLE to create more kids is a tragedy and also abusive. The very idea of people encouraging other people to clone themselves when the Earth is creaking and groaning under the weight of too many people makes me nauseous.
Oh and don’t get me started on the Duggars. It would be days before I could shut up about them and their screwed up abusive beliefs.
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December 1, 2017 at 8:51 pm
Meg
Oh, and by the way, I had a huge laugh at the “evolutionary fitness” argument. Evolution isn’t about quantity and fast breeding unless you are a prey species. Prey species create tons of offspring only so that they do not die out, which is something we do not need to do. We are apex predators. Almost everywhere else in the animal kingdom the males have to prove their fitness to the females for the opportunity to pass on their genes. That is how evolution works – an organism with traits favorable to survival earns the opportunity to pass their genes on to make the species more likely to continue existing.
Oddly I find people who don’t want kids (or are willing to wait to have kids, and when they do have kids, they have one or two and not ten) to be more intelligent, responsible, and have more foresight and empathy than those who want kids. It’s a paradox.
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December 2, 2017 at 2:18 am
Mystro
@Meg
“Most people are too fucked up to have kids”
I hear that.
“NOBODY should EVER be telling women to have kids”
Damn straight.
“It’s a paradox.”
Would it sound conceited if I said I didn’t think that was paradoxical at all?
You have some interesting points, though I’d be cautious about the mandatory sterilisation thing. That would be pretty damn tough to adjudicate fairly. There’s just so many ways things could go wrong and the system could be abused. I did have a thought once that violent offenders could opt for castration and a reduced sentence. There’d still be lots of details to work out, but as it’s optional, I think the risks of misapplication would be significantly reduced. I definitely don’t have this one all worked out yet.
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December 2, 2017 at 7:27 am
Steve Ruis
Just another case of people being critical of another’s stance without thinking it through. As always, people make statements (accusations) instead of asking questions and then, of course, draw conclusions from almost no evidence. Sometimes humans embarrass me.
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December 2, 2017 at 9:14 am
Mystro
@Steve Ruis
“Sometimes humans embarrass me.”
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December 2, 2017 at 11:35 pm
bleatmop
Some days Humanity and I just don’t get along. Aw, heck. Who am I kidding. It’s every day.
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December 18, 2017 at 6:29 pm
Meg
@Mystro as much as I would want shitty people to be sterilized (right away if at all possible) I know it would never happen. A system of oppression cannot exist without violence and abuse, and preventing violent and abusive people from breeding would get in the way of that agenda. America’s Dear Leaders are busy making sure that the babies of rapists outnumber the babies of non-rapists, ensuring that any genetic traits in favor of violence are perpetuated and remain part of our social fabric. How do I know this? Because it has already happened. Everyone who exists today is a product of systematic rape and exploitation, no exceptions.
However, give or take a couple (or several) decades, I think people will be begging for the days when abortion was left up to women. There will be so many people on the Earth, and subsequently so much misery that people will be longing for the days when feminism had any influence in the public psyche. They will be asking “why are you having kids” rather than “why aren’t you having kids” and “why aren’t you a feminist” instead of “why are you a feminist.” It won’t be until after the damage is done and society is on the verge of collapse that people will start realizing that oppressing half the human planet is a very bad idea.
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December 19, 2017 at 12:07 am
Mystro
@Meg
” It won’t be until after the damage is done and society is on the verge of collapse that people will start realizing that oppressing half the human planet is a very bad idea.”
*looks around at the world* sooooo, any day now, right?
” They will be asking… “why aren’t you a feminist” instead of “why are you a feminist.””
I can’t even count all the problems that would start getting solved if we just got this one shift happening.
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