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NonStampCollector enlightens us with the special case of slavery in the bible. Feel the moral goodness flow.
A great place to start if you need encouragement to stop drinking the religious Kool-aid. From the video description –
Whether you’re a believer or non-believer, when confronting bible slavery, don’t let anyone throw up this ridiculous smokescreen that says that the slavery instituted in the old testament was so completely different to, say, pre-civil war US slavery. The usual tactic is to throw facts and rules about Israelite indentured servitude around, to throw you off the scent of a Yahweh-mandated form of slavery EVERY BIT as bad as anything we’ve seen in recent centuries. This line of argument is so prevalent that I’m confused as to whether its proponents actually believe it or not; but either way, this video is my attempt to inject a bit of reality into this very important area of discussion.
The god of the bible mandated oppressive life-long slavery of foreigners – pretty much a concise description of one of the worst forms of human rights abuses the world has ever had to grapple with. It’s as simple as that.
No, I don’t hate God for mandating slavery, and no I don’t believe that God is evil for mandating slavery. I don’t believe that THIS god, the absurd god of the bible, is even extant, let alone worthy of any adjectives beyond that! This god’s inhumane and ridiculously cruel commands say nothing about the god that they are ascribed to, simply because they are so obviously ascribed to a god by the men in whose image this god was made.
Deal with it folks; your god is the brainchild of some particularly awful humans. The bible simply and clearly gets this very easy human rights question utterly wrong.
Abandon it, and keep looking for answers. You’ll be ever so glad you did.
I love the Bible. I love christians who don’t actually take the time to read this heinous turd of bronze-age mendacity. I extra-love christians who claim that there can be no morality without god. Basing your morality on the dubious actions and pronouncements of a god-head who is self contradictory and malicious seems to be a very bad idea. Discern4, a youtube author takes a look at one of the most problematic issues of the bible; slavery.
God - Waffler on Slavery
You see, my christian friends, apologists, and the religiously deluded in general if god were actually there and writing down good moral code for his “children” to follow one would expect His wisdom to contain something like this:
“Slavery is an abomination”
The problem is that you don’t actually see anything like this going on in either the old or new testaments. So saying that the bible is a good place to start for objective morality,as long as you over look slavery seems a little far fetched (rape and genocide are also notably absent, you would think our omniscient creator would have a little foresight and mention these little transgressions). My arguments aside, watch as our holy creator waffles about slavery being both bad and good…and then bad…and then….
Oh, and Happy New Year – May your thinking be less delusion and religiously addled in this fine new year. :)
*update* – Watch christian goodwill in action. I couldn’t resist…apologies for the 3 video post.
Not really a big surprise is it? I mean, slavery as a topic to most Westerners seems sort of a hazy far away topic. The indolent luxury of our society washes away much of our collective memory of slavery, ah yes feel the consumerist tide set you free.
Mostly, when one mentions the Slavery our memories draw back to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade of the the 16th century onwards. It was a horrible time, to say the least. The wild notion that all people are people still has not taken hold in our world even now in the 21st century.
Some of the not so nice facts from DW-World.de.
“Siddarth Kara, in his book “Sex Trafficking: Inside the Business of Modern Slavery,” says that there were just over 28 million slaves worldwide in 2006 divided into three categories: bonded labor/debt bondage, forced labor and trafficking slaves.
According to Kara, the profits generated worldwide by all forms of slavery in 2007 were just over $91 billion. That is second only to drug trafficking in terms of global criminal activities.
Information on slavery is very inexact. But we believe that the majority of slave victims – in the neighbourhood of 80 percent – are the female gender, and that around 50 percent are children. We believe that the largest category of slavery is sex slavery. This is not to minimize other large categories – domestic servitude slavery, forced labour in farms and factory slavery, child soldier slavery,” said John Miller, director of the US State Department‘s Office for Monitoring and Combating Trafficking in Persons.
Human trafficking is synonymous with slavery. Human trafficking relies on coercion and exploitation. It thrives on converting hope to fear. It’s maintained through violence. The trade in people is a major source of revenue – in the billions [of dollars per year] – for organized crime, along with the drug trade and the arms trade. Let there be no misunderstanding, modern slavery plagues every country in the world – including the United States,” Miller said.”
So ya, happy slavery day. Maybe within my lifetime it can be a memorial day instead of a current events concern.
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