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28 comments
September 11, 2016 at 6:16 am
roughseasinthemed
How about independent women?
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September 11, 2016 at 7:56 am
KIA
Satyr
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September 11, 2016 at 8:52 am
NeuroNotes
LMAO
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September 11, 2016 at 9:30 am
NeuroNotes
@ KIA, see Isiah 34:14, KJV
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September 11, 2016 at 10:17 am
john zande
Mega-Supurb
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September 11, 2016 at 11:06 am
makagutu
Dinosaur
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September 11, 2016 at 11:07 am
makagutu
I have not found one
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September 11, 2016 at 11:12 am
The Arbourist
@Makagutu
Nope. :)
http://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/scriptural/
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September 11, 2016 at 11:16 am
roughseasinthemed
Then, you do not know me, my friend
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September 11, 2016 at 11:20 am
roughseasinthemed
Mak, Arb’s weird commenting sometimes ends up with us all writing nonsense at each other!!
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September 11, 2016 at 11:22 am
makagutu
Yep. Course I meant to agree with you that I am yet to find one independent woman in the bible.
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September 11, 2016 at 11:36 am
roughseasinthemed
Ha. But at least you have met one on the internets!
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September 11, 2016 at 11:38 am
makagutu
Oh yeah. She is my friend ;-)
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September 11, 2016 at 12:16 pm
The Arbourist
@RSitM
Whoa whoa whoa – where is all the unnested comment hate coming from? :)
With a few added conventions, the “@person and” some quoting all is quite intelligible.
Unless
you
prefer
nested
comment
sections.
:P
:P
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September 11, 2016 at 12:25 pm
roughseasinthemed
Well yes actually. @ Arb
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September 11, 2016 at 12:31 pm
The Arbourist
@RSitM
I knew you’d say that. :)
*sigh*
I guess we’ll just have to celebrate our differences and work toward a brighter future!
Oh hey, you said you were working on a gritty feminist piece, how is that coming along?
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September 11, 2016 at 1:00 pm
roughseasinthemed
No. I said there were more sexual crimes, rapes, DV against women and girls in the UK according to official stats. Been there, written that, want the follow-up?
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September 11, 2016 at 1:04 pm
The Arbourist
@RSitM
Ah, okay. I misunderstood what you meant. Also, behind the times, just saw the article on the RS blog.
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September 11, 2016 at 1:39 pm
bleatmop
Satan
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September 11, 2016 at 1:40 pm
The Arbourist
@bleatmop
We have a winner. :)
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September 11, 2016 at 1:47 pm
bleatmop
I probably shouldn’t have ruined the fun for those of us that didn’t know the answer before hand.
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September 11, 2016 at 1:53 pm
NeuroNotes
OK, so what exactly are you suggesting in your title, Arb, when you say one of these things doesn’t belong in the Bible?
Job 1:7 (NIV)
“The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”
Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”
Mark 4:15 (NIV) — “Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them.”
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September 11, 2016 at 2:42 pm
The Arbourist
@NN
Nice catch. :)
Uh-oh, I thought the correct answer was Satan.
I had better put on the investigative hat now. :>
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September 11, 2016 at 2:52 pm
The Arbourist
@NN
A little digging brought me to this. – So it very well could be a translation error – since Unicorns as we imagine them today are not the ‘unicorns’ mentioned in the bible, but as the evidence suggests – a wild ox.
” The Hebrew word represented in the King James Version by “unicorn” is re’em, which undoubtedly refers to the wild ox (urus or aurochs) ancestral to the domesticated cattle of today. The re’em still flourished in early historical times and a few existed into modern times, although it is now extinct. It was a dangerous creature of great strength and was similar in form and temperament to the Asian buffaloes.
The Revised Standard Version translates re’em as “wild ox.” The verse in Numbers is translated as “they have as it were the horns of the wild ox,” while the one in Job is translated “Is the wild ox willing to serve you?” The Anchor Bible translates the verse in Job as “Will the buffalo deign to serve you?”
The wild ox was a favorite prey of the hunt-loving Assyrian monarchs (the animal was called rumu in Assyrian, essentially the same word as re’em) and was displayed in their large bas-reliefs. Here the wild ox was invariably shown in profile and only one horn was visible. One can well imagine that the animal represented in this fashion would come to be called “one-horn” as a familiar nickname, much as we might refer to “longhorns” in speaking of a certain breed of cattle.
As the animal itself grew less common under the pressure of increasing human population and the depredations of the hunt, it might come to be forgotten that there was a second horn hidden behind the first in the sculptures and “one-horn” might come to be considered a literal description of the animal.
When the first Greek translation of the Bible was prepared about 250 B.C., the animal was already rare in the long-settled areas of the Near East and the Greeks, who had no direct experience with it, had no word for it. They used a translation of “one-horn” instead and it became monokeros. In Latin and in English it became the Latin word for “one-horn”; that is, “unicorn.”
The Biblical writers could scarcely have had the intention of implying that the wild ox literally had one horn. There is one Biblical quotation, in fact, that clearly contradicts that notion. In the Book of Deuteronomy [33:17—BT], when Moses is giving his final blessing to each tribe, he speaks of the tribe of Joseph (Ephraim and Manasseh) as follows: “His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns….”
Here the word is placed in the plural since the thought of a “one-horn’s” single horn seems to make the phrase “horns of a unicorn” self-contradictory. Still, the original Hebrew has the word in the singular so that we must speak of the “horns of a unicorn,” which makes it clear that a unicorn has more than one horn (1968, pp. 186-187).”
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September 11, 2016 at 5:01 pm
NeuroNotes
I’m pretty sure the original intent of the image, though somewhat misleading, was to demonstrate that there’s only one listed in the image we actually have evidence for, which is the dinosaur. Unlike the other terms in the image, the term, dinosaur, is not specifically mentioned in any of the translations.
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September 11, 2016 at 5:12 pm
bleatmop
Satan as depicted in the picture does not appear in the bible. It depicts a lord of hell type of being that is never actually described in the bible. Satan, in the specific cases NN points out is simply an opponent to “The Lord”. Some other misconceptions is that Satan is the serpent, the beast, or lucifer. Again, there is no biblical evidence for any of those things. What Satan actually is is actually satan or the satan which is an accuser.
So does the word Satan appear in the bible? Yes. Does it describe the being shown in the picture? No.
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September 11, 2016 at 7:35 pm
NeuroNotes
“So does the word Satan appear in the bible? Yes. Does it describe the being shown in the picture? No.”
OK, if that’s the direction you want to go in, my top picks would also include the talking snake speaking into the microphone, the Halloween witch riding a broom, and the blonde, naked baby with wings (cherub)..
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September 12, 2016 at 5:14 pm
Francois Tremblay
Well, there’s a few crazy Creationists who argue that dinosaurs are actually discussed in the Bible. Maybe they are the inspired ones! LOL
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