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I’ve always found WLC’s arguments to be a bit frothy, and unnecessarily wordy, perhaps even straying into the realm of prolix. The Disservice today focuses on the reasons why prominent atheists and other intellectuals are wary of, or outright refuse to ‘debate’ WLC and his ilk.
That being said, here is a video from DiscoveringReligion that takes some of the more inane arguments put forth by our deluded christian friends vivisects them in great detail and sends the now ensaddened god squad packing.
I love the Bible. I love christians who don’t actually take the time to read this heinous turd of bronze-age mendacity. I extra-love christians who claim that there can be no morality without god. Basing your morality on the dubious actions and pronouncements of a god-head who is self contradictory and malicious seems to be a very bad idea. Discern4, a youtube author takes a look at one of the most problematic issues of the bible; slavery.
You see, my christian friends, apologists, and the religiously deluded in general if god were actually there and writing down good moral code for his “children” to follow one would expect His wisdom to contain something like this:
“Slavery is an abomination”
The problem is that you don’t actually see anything like this going on in either the old or new testaments. So saying that the bible is a good place to start for objective morality,as long as you over look slavery seems a little far fetched (rape and genocide are also notably absent, you would think our omniscient creator would have a little foresight and mention these little transgressions). My arguments aside, watch as our holy creator waffles about slavery being both bad and good…and then bad…and then….
Oh, and Happy New Year – May your thinking be less delusion and religiously addled in this fine new year. :)
*update* – Watch christian goodwill in action. I couldn’t resist…apologies for the 3 video post.
In another unsurprisingly putrid religious offering, the devout offer a lovely pastiche illustrating the misogyny, pettiness, and insular sectarianism that makes religion so repugnant to the rationally inclined.
“A shy eight-year-old schoolgirl has unwittingly found herself on the front line of Israel’s latest religious war.
Naama Margolese is a ponytailed, bespectacled second-grader afraid of walking to her religious Jewish girls’ school for fear of ultra-Orthodox men who have spat on her and called her a “whore” for dressing “immodestly”.
After significant media attention to the young girl’s plight, thousands came out to protest on Tuesday evening against gender segregation and violence against women at a rally in Beit Shemesh, 30km to the west of Jerusalem.”
These lovely ultra-orthodox men of faith have taken to harassing 8 year old girls because their immodest dress. Bare arms apparently qualify as immodest dress. Of course the gender policing going on here is not new – most religions by default destroy a woman’s autonomy and rights. The neat little twist here is that this is happening in a supposedly secular democratic state.
“Naama’s persecution has drawn new attention to the simmering issue of religious coercion in Israel, and the increasing brazenness by vigilantes from the insular ultra-Orthodox community.
“When I walk to school in the morning I used to get a tummy ache because I was so scared … that they were going to stand and start yelling and spitting,” she said in an interview with the Associated Press news agency on Monday.
“They were scary. They don’t want us to go to the school.”
The new girls’ school that Naama attends in the city of Beit Shemesh is on the border between an ultra-Orthodox neighbourhood and a community of modern Orthodox Jewish residents, many of them American immigrants.
The ultra-Orthodox consider the school an encroachment on their territory. Dozens of black-hatted men jeer and physically accost the girls almost daily, the students say. Televised images of Naama sobbing en route to school have shocked many Israelis, elicited statements of outrage from the country’s leadership and sparked a Facebook page with nearly 10,000 followers dedicated to “protecting little Naama”.
“Who’s afraid of an 8-year-old student?” Sunday’s main headline in the leading Yediot Ahronot daily said.”
Let me answer that for you. People so utterly screwed up on the stupid-shitty-ass Koolaid known as religion that they will verbally accost and spit on children because their magic book says so. Actions such as this are so obviously wrong, but the power of faith and religious wankitude allows the believers to soldier on in the face reality and ethical considerations.
“Beit Shemesh’s growing ultra-Orthodox population has erected street signs calling for the separation of sexes on the sidewalks, dispatched “modesty patrols” to enforce a chaste female appearance and hurled stones at offenders.
Walls of the neighbourhood are plastered with signs exhorting women to dress modestly in closed-necked, long-sleeved blouses and long skirts.”
Yep, take that you unseemly, unsightly, unworthy women…cover your shame. I’m thinking the Burka treatment is in order here, lets completely dehumanize women so we can completely strip them of their rights and membership in the human race.
“The Israel police are taking, and will take, action to arrest and stop those who spit, harass or raise a hand. This has no place in a free and democratic state,” he told his cabinet.
The abuse and segregation of women in Israel in ultra-Orthodox areas is nothing new, and critics accuse the government of turning a blind eye.
The ultra-Orthodox are perennial king-makers in Israeli coalition politics – two such parties serve as key members of Netanyahu’s coalition. They receive generous government subsidies, and police have traditionally been reluctant to enter their communities.”
Ah, the reason why the burning stupid remains. Women’s autonomy and rights can happily be thrown under the bus for political expediency. O how odious religion is when given political power and room to exist within a society. Here lies yet another shining example of why states MUST be secular and the boundaries between church and state must be clearly delineated.
As WLC says – A pretty strong argument…
Thanks to NSC for the interpretation.
Well after a little browsing ,here is the extended smackdown WLC so richly deserves, along with more evidence of the contortions necessary to believe the bible is a moral work.
Thank you for your powerful words and the courage modeled in dismantling the rotten specter of religion. That is all.
Christopher Hitchens 1949 – 2011.








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