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Why hello there gentle readers (and a big thanks to John Zande for bringing this video to my attention).  Today were going to look at one of the fundamental differences between the lived experiences of men and women in public.   We’re also going to look at some of the horrible things misogynistic, entitled men say when they see a version of reality that doesn’t agree with theirs.  These are the same dudebro’s that cry foul when women post videos on you tube and decline to open the comment section.   So, let us watch the video and then digest some of the comments I annotate from said video.

A handy refresher about Helen Lewis’s Law -“Comments on any article about feminism justify feminism.”

**UPDATE – A big thank you Bleatmop for this information – Shoshana has also been receiving rape threats due to her participation in this video.   See the story here. **

This video is a PSA about street harassment and this definition is from their blog Hollaback.

“What is street harassment?

Street harassment is a form of sexual harassment that takes place in public spaces. It exists on a spectrum including “catcalling” or verbal harassment, stalking, groping, public masturbation, and assault. At its core is a power dynamic that constantly reminds historically subordinated groups (women and LGBTQ folks, for example) of their vulnerability to assault in public spaces. Further, it reinforces the ubiquitous sexual objectification of these groups in everyday life. Street harassment can be sexist, racist, transphobic, homophobic, ableist, sizeist and/or classist.  It is an expression of the interlocking and overlapping oppressions we face and it functions as a means to silence our voices and “keep us in our place.” At Hollaback!, we believe that what specifically counts as street harassment is determined by those who experience it.  If you’ve experienced street harassment, we’ve got your back!

 

Is Shoshana’s experience unique?

The experience of street harassment is different for everyone.  Street harassment disproportionately impacts women, people of color, LGBTQ individuals, and young people.  Although the degree to which Shoshana gets harassed is shocking — the reality is that the harassment that people of color and LGBTQ individuals face is oftentimes more severe and more likely to escalate into violence. These forms of harassment are not just sexist — but also racist and homophobic in nature.”

[…]

Shoshana noted, “I’m harassed when I smile and I’m harassed when I don’t. I’m harassed by white men, black men, latino men. Not a day goes by when I don’t experience this.”

 

 

Yes, well, lets take a peek at what the enlightened you tube commentators has to say.  I went through the comments and came up with 5 rough categorizations of comments that I screen-capped:  Clueless Dudes, Entitled Males, FreezePeach, Misogynistic ManSplainers, and Victim Blaming.  Some comments could be in more than one category, but divisions needed to be made somewhere (it’s such a pleasure seeing so many graduations of misogyny).  Oh yes there are a smattering of non vile responses, but those are for a different post.

So here we go, category one – Clueless Dudes.

 

Cluelessdude

#1 Some of these persons are harassing for sure. But saying “have a nice evening” or “How are you?” or anything like that is not harassing in anyway! You should try saying “You too!”, “I’m fine thanks, and you?” and send a smile. In that way we would all have a nice day.

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#2. Should we arrest all these men for saying inoffensive things? Should we tie them up and give them 50 lashings each? Would that make you feel better about it? Because unless you do, it’s never going to stop. So shut the fuck up.

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#3. Most of them were REALLY nice. “God Bless You” and “have a good day”. Those would make my day!

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#4. She’s going to change her mind when she hits about 45 and all the catcalls stop.

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#5.Men are genetically designed to reproduce. Of course a good looking girl is going to get hit on.

Clueless Dude Analysis/Response:  Wow, so much fail, so little time.  Let’s respond in order.

#1.  Women in public are not obligated to say or do anything.  The men in this video were trying to elicit a response or commentate on her physical stature.  This is not conversation, it is harassment.

#2.  Should we speak in nothing but hyperbole when defending the status-quo that benefits you so much?

#3.  Would it really make your day if so many of these comments were preludes to asking for sex or touching that you have not asked for?  The good ship male experience sails in the calmest of waters.

#4.  Ah, you’d be surprised what a relief it is for many women who age out of, or fat out of or whatever out of, the category of women who get unwanted male attention.  The transition from harassment target – girl I’d like to fuck – to invisible to the male eye penis is a reality for almost all women.

#5.  Would any comment sections about female harassment be complete without some evo-devo-pysch bullshit?  Let me know how your hunt goes Jonny Tan whilst the females gather roots and berries…  (pro-tip:  That whispering you hear is civilization and progress proving your low opinion of males and humanity comes directly from your rectum).

 

Category Two – Entitled Males.

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Ah, misogyny.  Definitely a feature of society not a bug.  Amazing the amount of fuss dude-bros can whip up in their crusade against the evil double X conspiracy.   I’m still gathering information on the whole debacle, but I may as well share what I’ve read about Gamer Gate so far.

Amanda Marcotte has a succinct analysis over at Raw Story

 

“Not that there was any doubt, but the entrance of right wing ideologues into the faux controversy “#GamerGate” makes it almost comically clear how this is not, was not, and never will be about “ethics in journalism”, but about harnessing the inchoate anger of a bunch of people who feel left out by the Cool Kids and aiming it directly at the goal of eroding women’s right to basic equality with men. (For those who wish to argue that point, feel free to read this, and please comment there, in the wasteland where zero #GamerGate enthusiasts have yet to actually argue with any of my actual points.) It was a grassroots movement of 4chan misogynists who just want to punish individual women online to get back at women as a group for some incoherent sins against them (insufficient blow jobs, not sneaking into their houses to clean shit while they’re away), but now the conservative vultures are swirling. They see some marks and they, by god, are going to pick them up. And like watching a vulture tear into carrion, it’s simultaneously revolting and fascinating.”

 

 “For those who have been following this ridiculous “#GamerGate” story, where a bunch of misogynists who have been harassing a video game developer named Zoe Quinn because her vindictive ex-boyfriend sent them after her, have probably been happy to see that Quinn just dumped a bunch of screenshots disproving their already flimsy excuses for the harassment. From the get-go, it’s been obvious that the real reason all these haters have been attacking Quinn is that she’s a hate object for them to dump their misogyny and resentments all over, but the “official” reason is they are very concerned about the integrity of gaming journalism. The accusation is she “bought” positive press by sleeping with a journalist for it. The fact that the press she supposedly bought with sex doesn’t exist hasn’t slowed this bullshit down. But Quinn shared a bunch of screenshots showing that, in fact, the “concern” over “ethics” was a paper-thin rationale for what’s really going on, which is a widespread semi-conspiracy to harass a few targeted women in games in an effort to scare off anyone in gaming who insists on believing women are people. So I recommend reading the link.  But I do fear this won’t slow any of the harassment down, and I’ll tell you why. It’s because it was evidence from day #1 that there was no real concern about the ethics of gaming journalism going on.”

For more information on the gamergate fiasco, check out Vice, Recode, Deadspin, and Death and Taxes.

Amanda Hess on Misogyny Spotting –

 

“These are forms of male aggression that only women see. But even when men are afforded a front seat to harassment, they don’t always have the correct vantage point for recognizing the subtlety of its operation. Four years before the murders, I was sitting in a bar in Washington, D.C. with a male friend. Another young woman was alone at the bar when an older man scooted next to her. He was aggressive, wasted, and sitting too close, but she smiled curtly at his ramblings and laughed softly at his jokes as she patiently downed her drink. ‘Why is she humoring him?’ my friend asked me. ‘You would never do that.’ I was too embarrassed to say: ‘Because he looks scary’ and ‘I do it all the time.’

Women who have experienced this can recognize that placating these men is a rational choice, a form of self-defense to protect against setting off an aggressor. But to male bystanders, it often looks like a warm welcome, and that helps to shift blame in the public eye from the harasser and onto his target, who’s failed to respond with the type of masculine bravado that men more easily recognize.”

 

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Fearless amateur sociologist Sam Pepper conducts ground breaking social experiments such as this one.

http://youtu.be/JZK68EtR2Q0

The video apparently was moved to private, here is recap of the lowlights of Pepper’s activities.

http://youtu.be/gOImgYWaOLo

Yah…  he really did that and continues to do creepy things to women objectifying and violating their personal boundaries because in our society in 2014  – the boundaries of women don’t matter.  This individual is showing us exactly what women have to put up with on a daily basis (and yes of course not exactly this, everything comes in degrees).

Look at the number of hits on this video, look at the number of “thumbs up”.   If anything the greater idea being sent is how much toxic misogyny is present in our culture and how acceptable it still is.

Laci Green summarizes what we can do about sexual predators like Mr.Pepper in this video here.

And if you really need more confirmation of the misogyny present in our culture, do check out the comment section as it speaks volumes to how far we still have to go in establishing the radical idea that women are people too.

Well, another antidote to the ferocious level of managed-shortsightedness by the media on the Santa Barbara mass murders.

“I have been a radical feminist for as long as I can remember. As I witness the marginalisation of radical feminism in the cultural discourse, in publishing, and in women’s studies programs, I see the feminist movement I once loved become powerless to explain what is happening to women -especially the horrific levels of violence against women.This failure has reached a new level following the massacre by Elliot Rodger of students at UC Santa Barbara. The media is on fire with women, and some men, writing about misogyny as the cause, as if that explains why Rodger targeted young women and rambled on about “sluts” refusing to date him.

Misogyny is not something created out of thin air, to be caught much like a cold, that drives those infected to commit horrendous acts of violence. It is an ideology produced and disseminated by social and cultural institutions that work seamlessly together to create a social reality that normalises, legitimises and glorifies violence against women.

Karl Marx was one of the first theorists to explain that ideology is not a free-floating set of ideas, but rather a coherent system of beliefs that are purposely and carefully created by the elite class to promote their interests. Using their ownership of key cultural institutions, the elite then set about distributing these ideas until they become the dominant ways of thinking.”

— Gail Dines [Source].

The intro to an article I wish I had written.

How is that a man can leave a 140-page manifesto describing, in explicit detail, how much he hates women, why he hates women, why he thinks women deserve to be punished, and precisely how he plans to punish them — and then his subsequent killing spree is attributed to everything but misogyny?

Honestly, I’m sure it’s tempting to shy away from that painful truth. It’s comforting to pretend that future killings can be prevented just by making mental health care more easily accessible, or by locking up all the guns. Just like it’s comforting to pretend that rape can be prevented if women just wear modest clothes and cover our drinks. Acknowledge that Elliot Rodger’s killing spree was grounded in misogyny, and we have to acknowledge that preventing such tragedies isn’t about changes in laws —- it’s about changes in society, in a culture that supports the idea that women are objects and sex with a woman is a man’s god-given entitlement.

Misogyny is the issue.

 

 

hazmatFind your helmets and the hazmat suits dear readers, we’re going into the high back-country of mendacity, where the stupid is rugged and the ignorance is thick.  Yes, we’re going to go visit our dear friend Matthew again because it is so rare to find such a deluded ball of procacity and self-delusion all in the same person.

But before we go on our merry gasconade we should warn the uninitiated – Matthew is a rebarbative hunk of misogynistic shit, his hatred of women runs astonishingly deep and his words can be quite shocking for the uninitiated.  Consider yourself warned.   Let loose the RPOJ from its sacred scabbard and into the ferocious maw of  puerile thought-fap we go.

“Even a Slut Doesn’t Deserve to be Raped”

Oh wow.  Even the title is filled to the brim with malevolent idiocy.  Pro-tip Matthew – women are people not objects for your wang-prophecies.

Modern “feminists” have this controversial idea known as “rape culture” that’s been bothering me for a while.

There is nothing controversial about rape culture fart-knocker.  What merits attention is the lengths half-wits like yourself will go to deny the reality of what is happening to women in our culture, as I’m pretty sure this is the direction you’re going to take.

I did a little research to try to figure out what exactly they mean by it, and I was disturbed by what a bleak and one-sided picture they paint.

Oh really?  I’m curious as to the depths of your research, as to date it has been a indisputably shoddy train wreck of fail.  But, the optimist in me says maybe ‘this’ time you won’t bollocks things up, so let’s investigate what you’ve uncovered.

What some of them seem to mean when they say “rape culture” is:

  • that women and girls who dress in tight/revealing/slutty clothing are supposedly criticized (“slut shamed”) for being slutty

*Looks at title of post – looks at this sentence* – You have not a fucking clue what you’re talking about.

    • that if these women or girls ever do get raped then they will supposedly also be blamed (“victim blamed”) for it

Wow – still no clue.   Par for the course for Matthew whose hyper-skeptical glasses have been set to 11 for all these mysterious claims made by feminists.

    • that the rapist will supposedly not be blamed at all and will just be allowed to go free

Facts suck don’t they Matthew, especially ones that don’t agree with your fevered view of the world. Understand one thing douche-nugget, most rapists will never spend a day in jail.  (Source.)

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    • that supposedly the key to ending this “culture” of rape is to continue to dress like sluts in order to convince people that this is just a normal way for women and girls to behave

Err..no. The key to ending rape culture is for men (and the societal norms that enable them) to stop raping women.  This is not rocket science, Skippy. 

But here are the problems I have with this, and it falls on both sides of the issue.

face_palm   A fair and balanced analysis I’m sure….*facepalm*

First, I hate women and girls who dress in tight/revealing clothing, and I don’t mind that they are criticized (“shamed”), because they are creating a public nuisance.  Showing off your body causes sexual frustration.

Important notes from your boner are irrelevant to how women look and dress.  They are not responsible for your man feelings, not now, not ever.  Try and act like a fracking grown up for once in your life. 

This is biological sexual attraction, and if you don’t understand that then you are either a sex addict who has been exposed to sex so much that you’ve become desensitized to it or some asexual person who had almost no sex drive to begin with.

Ah, so why aren’t you out killing some meat for your clan in the jungle?  What is it with dudes trying to use biology to justify their shitty behaviour?  We live in this thing called society and is marginally civilized if you can’t handle that shit, then leave. 

To what I think is a normal male, it’s like an itch that needs to be scratched.

venn.pptx     Funny how your idea of “normal” coincides with what you believe to be true.  Almost like it is a self-reinforcing cycle of ignorance and stupidity.  You need to meet these guys – Dunning-Kruger – you’d get along smashingly.  

Sexual frustration in turn can tempt a person to engage in unhealthy and desperate behavior such as impulsive forms of consensual sex, porn addiction, or solicitation of prostitution.  Most of this is legal in some sense or another (depending on your geography), but it’s all arguably a form of humiliation, and tight/revealing clothing indirectly promotes it.  In other words, women and girls who dress like sluts indirectly harm other women.

Wow how about you take a step out of the cradle and claim your agency instead of blaming women for all of your problems.  

Second, there’s the issue of blame.  I actually believe that, objectively, tight/revealing clothing will increase a woman’s chances of being raped. It’s simply a combination of biological sexual attraction and self-control that some men lack.  “Feminists” who advise women and girls to dress as slutty as they want and not care what people think are really doing them a disservice and endangering them.  I am not “blaming” victims, but I am trying to give them some advice.

Wow, thanks but no thanks.  Women hear shit like this everyday – and it is shit – because it places the onus on them for being raped as opposed to those who are responsible – the fucking rapists.  Of course, blaming the victim is nothing new under the sun. 

Finally, there’s the heart of the issue, the practical aspect of “blame”, which is how to deal with rapists.  I actually don’t think even a slutty woman deserves to be raped.  Rape is way too harsh a punishment for any behavior, no matter how foolish or irresponsible.

Redemption?  No cookie for you!  Saying rape is bad at the end an article that blames women for being raped wins you nothing but scorn and contempt. 

No one deserves to be traumatized like that, which is why the rapist must still be punished.  If the rapist were not punished, then he or future rapists might be encouraged to try to repeat the same horrible act (which I just said should not be allowed to happen to anyone regardless of how reckless her behavior was).

  How magnanimous of you. 

So, I say:  (a) punish the perpetrator, (b) advise the victim to be more careful in the future, and (c) continue to criticize women and girls who dress or act sluttishly because this last point is really a separate problem. 

One out of three is still a fail. 

I’m not on the side of “rape culture”, but I’m not on the side of “feminism” either.  I instead choose what I think is a realistic and sensible medium to encourage a more peaceful society.

Oh yah, you and rape culture are bros, dude; let me assure you of that.   What you “think” is usually weapons grade bullshite with a heaping side of misogyny that attempts to make women responsible for shitty male behaviour.   Let me know when that tune changes; then we can start talking about realistic and sensible.

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