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Why hello there gentle readers (and a big thanks to John Zande for bringing this video to my attention).  Today were going to look at one of the fundamental differences between the lived experiences of men and women in public.   We’re also going to look at some of the horrible things misogynistic, entitled men say when they see a version of reality that doesn’t agree with theirs.  These are the same dudebro’s that cry foul when women post videos on you tube and decline to open the comment section.   So, let us watch the video and then digest some of the comments I annotate from said video.

A handy refresher about Helen Lewis’s Law -“Comments on any article about feminism justify feminism.”

**UPDATE – A big thank you Bleatmop for this information – Shoshana has also been receiving rape threats due to her participation in this video.   See the story here. **

This video is a PSA about street harassment and this definition is from their blog Hollaback.

“What is street harassment?

Street harassment is a form of sexual harassment that takes place in public spaces. It exists on a spectrum including “catcalling” or verbal harassment, stalking, groping, public masturbation, and assault. At its core is a power dynamic that constantly reminds historically subordinated groups (women and LGBTQ folks, for example) of their vulnerability to assault in public spaces. Further, it reinforces the ubiquitous sexual objectification of these groups in everyday life. Street harassment can be sexist, racist, transphobic, homophobic, ableist, sizeist and/or classist.  It is an expression of the interlocking and overlapping oppressions we face and it functions as a means to silence our voices and “keep us in our place.” At Hollaback!, we believe that what specifically counts as street harassment is determined by those who experience it.  If you’ve experienced street harassment, we’ve got your back!

 

Is Shoshana’s experience unique?

The experience of street harassment is different for everyone.  Street harassment disproportionately impacts women, people of color, LGBTQ individuals, and young people.  Although the degree to which Shoshana gets harassed is shocking — the reality is that the harassment that people of color and LGBTQ individuals face is oftentimes more severe and more likely to escalate into violence. These forms of harassment are not just sexist — but also racist and homophobic in nature.”

[…]

Shoshana noted, “I’m harassed when I smile and I’m harassed when I don’t. I’m harassed by white men, black men, latino men. Not a day goes by when I don’t experience this.”

 

 

Yes, well, lets take a peek at what the enlightened you tube commentators has to say.  I went through the comments and came up with 5 rough categorizations of comments that I screen-capped:  Clueless Dudes, Entitled Males, FreezePeach, Misogynistic ManSplainers, and Victim Blaming.  Some comments could be in more than one category, but divisions needed to be made somewhere (it’s such a pleasure seeing so many graduations of misogyny).  Oh yes there are a smattering of non vile responses, but those are for a different post.

So here we go, category one – Clueless Dudes.

 

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#1 Some of these persons are harassing for sure. But saying “have a nice evening” or “How are you?” or anything like that is not harassing in anyway! You should try saying “You too!”, “I’m fine thanks, and you?” and send a smile. In that way we would all have a nice day.

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#2. Should we arrest all these men for saying inoffensive things? Should we tie them up and give them 50 lashings each? Would that make you feel better about it? Because unless you do, it’s never going to stop. So shut the fuck up.

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#3. Most of them were REALLY nice. “God Bless You” and “have a good day”. Those would make my day!

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#4. She’s going to change her mind when she hits about 45 and all the catcalls stop.

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#5.Men are genetically designed to reproduce. Of course a good looking girl is going to get hit on.

Clueless Dude Analysis/Response:  Wow, so much fail, so little time.  Let’s respond in order.

#1.  Women in public are not obligated to say or do anything.  The men in this video were trying to elicit a response or commentate on her physical stature.  This is not conversation, it is harassment.

#2.  Should we speak in nothing but hyperbole when defending the status-quo that benefits you so much?

#3.  Would it really make your day if so many of these comments were preludes to asking for sex or touching that you have not asked for?  The good ship male experience sails in the calmest of waters.

#4.  Ah, you’d be surprised what a relief it is for many women who age out of, or fat out of or whatever out of, the category of women who get unwanted male attention.  The transition from harassment target – girl I’d like to fuck – to invisible to the male eye penis is a reality for almost all women.

#5.  Would any comment sections about female harassment be complete without some evo-devo-pysch bullshit?  Let me know how your hunt goes Jonny Tan whilst the females gather roots and berries…  (pro-tip:  That whispering you hear is civilization and progress proving your low opinion of males and humanity comes directly from your rectum).

 

Category Two – Entitled Males.

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Let us establish something right here, right now and forever.  Whenever a women says in public they’ve been raped they are taking a huge chance.   The patriarchal fuckwittery that surrounds women speaking up against those that have violated them is sickening.  It is not her fault for what happened to her, it does not matter what happened before, what she was wearing, where she was walking, how she was walking as soon as she expresses “do NOT want” it is all on the other person to immediately STOP.  End of line, end of story, end of fracking everything – human beings with a conscience and awareness of others do stop, rapists don’t.  The problem is you can’t tell which is which.

1 in 4 women will be sexually abused in their lifetime.   Go to any social situation and you will be looking at survivors of rape and abuse.  Oh and why is the incidence so high?  Shouldn’t women go to the authorities if it was a “serious problem?”

Oh, because going to the authorities isn’t very fucking effective.   Smack you with a clue by four, twice for good measure if you were thinking of going down that route.  So going public means (adding on top of the emotional damage already done, you know from being forcibly violated) being shamed, blamed and shunned by your social circle and society and most likely there will be no consequences for Mr.Rapeity-Rape Pants.  How about a rousing fuck-you for the people who declare that equality is achieved and we live in a post-feminist age.

What can you do?  Rapists are in your circle of friends, you’ve seen them in action as they move with near impunity.  Stop providing them with the social acceptance that makes what they do so easy for them.  Call them out for being/acting like a creep, and don’t let it go till they leave the premise where they are creeping about.  You can’t fix all the patriarchal shite that we have to swim through, but you can clean up the small pool you inhabit.

Let’s rewind a little to get the background of what has transpired in this rape/unrape situation.

” On the evening of July 29, 2004, then[a female private in the Canadian Armed Forces Reserve] says she was celebrating the end of a military training course with her fellow reservists, including her mom, and instructors at Debney Armoury on Roper Road when her life took a shocking turn.
It was during those celebrations that she says she was raped.”

(Trigger Warning) – This story is fairly repugnant from beginning to end.

The title of this newspaper article, from the SUN, one of my favorite newspaper chains to hate for their artless casuistry is patriarchal gold – “Career dream shattered“.    Not “brutal rape in bathroom stall” or “Female Recruit Assaulted and Raped” …  no no nothing like that.  That might actually place the focus on the victim, and that clearly, is unacceptable (and worth a post all on its own).

“Officers in the course really need to have their training down because no one knew what to do,” she said.

Let me go out on a limb here and speculate that “no one knew what to do” really meant that  is ‘how are we going get out of this situation with Savage’s reputation intact’.  The Armed Forces are not exactly known to be a bastion of liberal ideals and progressive thought.

“I was told to seek medical attention before I went to the police. Then, at the base, the nurses explained they didn’t do rape kits, so I had to wait until they were all done for the day before they would take me to the Royal Alex.

“The site nurses didn’t have a kit and said the police had to bring it.”

Some 17 hours after the alleged attack, Santonne says she was finally assessed by a doctor.

Hmm…raped, shuffled around for 17 hours – we certainly do not live in a patriarchal society here.

Her comments:

Now, [she] claims she suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder and has no intentions of pursuing a career with the military, adding she initially entered the reserves because she was anxious to serve her country and see the world.

“For me, it’s now a lost cause,” she said.

The results of the first trial on January 8th, 2008 (note the time of the rape, was 4 years ago) was a conviction, but watch the defense comments for the set-up…

“An Edmonton soldier was sentenced Monday to three years in prison for raping a young female recruit. Orman Savage, 38, was convicted in August of sexually assaulting the woman during a party following basic training three years ago.

Provincial court Judge Albert Chrumka agreed with Crown prosecutor Avril Herron, who argued that a prison term is the only just sentence for Savage.

Right on forces of justice!  A sorely won victory…?

“Savage and his supporters have steadfastly maintained his innocence throughout the trial. Defence lawyer Brian Beresh said Monday his client will immediately launch an appeal.

“The appeal will be based on what we consider to be procedural unfairness at the trial,” Beresh said.”

I am curious about what procedural unfairness (you will see this material again) really means in the context of this case.  As the judge says the defense managed to shoot itself in the foot several times during the trial –

“In his ruling last summer,[Judge] Chrumka called Savage’s testimony at trial “ludicrous” and “concocted.”

“You seem to be your own worst witness,” he said, adding the testimony was “so fanciful it is unbelievable.

“Chrumka said he believed the testimony of the woman, who was 21 when she was attacked.”

The case was appealed and brought before a different court.  The previous ruling was overturned and a woman was ‘unraped’.

tp-savage-verdict“A former Edmonton soldier said he feels as if he’s been released from a nightmare after being acquitted Friday on sexual assault charges following an earlier conviction.”

— “All I can say is that I am glad to see that this nightmare is over after five and a half years and to finally see justice actually be done,” Savage said outside court.”

You should not say anything.  You found a judge and jury willing to listen to the archetypal anti-woman, rape culture approved, victim-blaming that is so perversely common in our society.  Watch and weep…

1.  “Savage claimed it was the woman who made sexual advances.”

And therefore got what she deserved because one alleged “yes” cancels out the sobbing, pleading, resisting  “no’s” that come after.   This is bull-cookies of first fracking order, the legal notion of consent needs to be changed NOW.

2.  “The young recruit fell backwards while she was hunched over the toilet, vomiting, Savage told the jury. As he helped her up, she threw her arms around his neck and said, “I’ve been wanting to do this for a long time.” Then she tried to kiss him, Savage said.”

Because it is so obvious that she wants it, oh damn, for sure with all the vomiting retching and other pleasantness that goes along with expunging your stomach contents.  It just screams ‘sexy time’.

3. […] defence lawyer Brian Beresh challenged the credibility of the female recruit.

“I would suggest much of her story is like a Hollywood script,” Beresh told jurors. “But she’s written the scenes to be all in her favour.”

Ah yes, here we have the procedural unfairness rearing its ugly head.  The last time around we did not actually properly attack the female victim and her integrity; instead we  made ourselves look stupid – recall Judge Chrumka’s previous comments: Savage’s testimony at trial [was] “ludicrous” and “concocted.”

How one gets from essentially incriminating oneself to suggesting that the female private’s story is like Hollywood script is really quite beyond me.

The immoral of the story if she’s puking drunk and mumbles something vaguely coherent toward you, its a fracking green light for the frak-fest to begin.  Don’t consider the physical context (vomiting in a bathroom stall), her state (drunk enough to lose consciousness and void her stomach), or her rights (not to be used as a piece of meat for your momentary pleasure).

When do we start treating women as fully sentient, autonomous beings –  ya know, the default setting for men?



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