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Tell me again about your just, kind, and loving god…
I needed some time to digest this story… Sorry folks but that is a lie. I needed some time to come back to a (relatively) coherent state before I could write reasonably about what went down with Savita Halappanavar.
A post filled with nothing but white-hot rage and invective against the pustulant ass-pimples known as pro-lifers (anti-choicers, for the sake of veracity) and their equally pustulant,delusion friends, the Catholic Church would serve little purpose other than giving the other side ammunition about how nasty I am (Humourless Feminist, Too Sensitive, Crazy Socialist, Militant Atheist etc…the list is long ). No, my ninnyhammerd-half-witted friends won’t get the pleasure because in Savita’s case there is nothing for me to add, the absolute horror and immorality of their position is chillingly clear – and a young woman had to die because of it (and women are dying of it here in North America too).
Let’s just look at how our pro-life catholic friends “helped” Savita Halappanavar – Analysis from Dr. Jen Gunter (I’m referencing Jen’s post to make my point, she does not hold the same opinion as I). [ed. bold text mine]
This is what is known. Savita Halappanavar was 31 years old and happy to be pregnant with her first child. Then, at 17 weeks, tragedy struck and she was “found to be miscarrying.” Her husband reports that she was in “severe pain” for three days at the hospital and a termination was requested. He says this request was denied because Ireland is “a Catholic country.” He and his late wife were led to believe that the law would only allow her to be delivered when there was no fetal heartbeat.
What does the standard of medical care say about this treatment? Without access to the chart, “miscarrying” at 17 weeks can only mean one of three things”
A) Ruptured membranes
B) Advanced cervical dilation
C) Labor (this is unlikely, although it is possible that she had preterm labor that arrested and left her with scenario B, advanced cervical dilation).
All three of these scenarios have a dismal prognosis, none of which should involve the death of the mother.
Okay, ground rules set. There were no mysteries here, the medical playbook is straight forward.
The standard of care with ruptured membranes (scenario A) is to offer termination or, if there is no evidence of infection and the pregnancy is desired, the option of observing for a few days to see if the leak seals over and more fluid accumulates. If no fluid accumulates and by some chance the pregnancy manages to go beyond 24 weeks (the vast majority of pregnancies with ruptured membranes delivery within a week), survival is unlikely given the lungs require amniotic fluid to develop. I have seen the rare case where a woman with no infection (and no fluid) elects conservative management in the hopes that might make it to at least 24 weeks in the pregnancy, however, I have never heard of a baby surviving in this scenario. Regardless, if at any point infection is suspected the treatment is antibiotics and delivery not antibiotics alone.
The standard of care with scenario B involves offering delivery or possibly a rescue cerclage (a stitch around the cervix to try to prevent further dilation and thus delivery) depending on the situation. Inducing delivery (or a D and E) is offered because a cervix that has dilated significantly often leads to labor or an infection as the membranes are now exposed to the vaginal flora. Many women do not want wait for infection. A rescue cerclage is not without risks and is contraindicated with ruptured membranes or any sign of infection. Rescue cerclage is a very case by case intervention and well beyond the scope of this post. These decisions are difficult and the mark of good medical care is that all scenarios are discussed, all interventions that are technically possible offered, and then the patient makes an informed decision. All with the understanding that if infection develops, delivery is indicated.
Medically speaking, Dr.Gunter explains the outcomes of what these religiously addled doctors did, or more specifically did not do.
As there is no medically acceptable scenario at 17 weeks where a woman is miscarrying AND is denied a termination, there can only be three plausible explanations for Ms. Hapappanavar’s “medical care” :
1) Irish law does indeed treat pregnant women as second class citizens and denies them appropriate medical care. The medical team was following the law to avoid criminal prosecution.
2) Irish law does not deny women the care they need; however, a zealous individual doctor or hospital administrator interpreted Catholic doctrine in such a way that a pregnant woman’s medical care was somehow irrelevant and superceded by heart tones of a 17 weeks fetus that could never be viable.
3) Irish law allows abortions for women when medically necessary, but the doctors involved were negligent in that they could not diagnose infection when it was so obviously present, did not know the treatment, or were not competent enough to carry out the treatment.
What we do know is that a young, pregnant, woman who presented to the hospital in a first world country died for want of appropriate medical care. Whether it’s Irish Catholic law or malpractice, only time will tell; however, no answer could possibly ease the pain and suffering of Ms. Halappanavar’s loved ones.
This is what we get when we allow insipid religious prevarication into important parts of our society. Mythology and magic have no place in secular institutions, not now and not ever. Yet we still allow the bullshite in despite the injuries, deaths and pain it causes. Religion poisons everything and everyone it touches and yet Religion is
just one head of the hydra that conspired to end Savita’s life. By now the ironically named “Pro-life” band of fetus fetishists need to take their bows and unsuccessfully try to wipe their bloody hands of this uncomfortable case.
Savita’s death is on their hands because this is what you get when you don’t value women as people and see them only as incubators. Savita and other women are dying because of the batshite-insane anti-choice nuttery that goes on that somehow makes it okay to take women out of the pregnancy equation and deny her rights. So have your prayer vigils, your fetus-porn, your 40 days of fuckwittery – all so you can feel fucking morally superior(?) when a women like Savita Halappanarvar dies? Your fetid morality is repugnant and has no place in a civilized society… none whatsoever.
You know what the best tell is from these anti-woman fetus worshipping zealots is? The absolute fucking silence from the pro-life side of things when details of Savita’s death rang around the world. The author(s) over at Reasonable Conversation nailed it with this post which I excerpt here. [ed. bold text mine]
The fact of the matter is, these people can only thrive when the deaths are anonymous. The moment we had a name for one of the victims of their horrible and irrational beliefs, they needed to shut up and hide so nobody could ask them if Savita Halappanavar should have died, if it was god’s will, if they should have allowed her to be treated. They can’t answer these questions because the answers they would give would make them look like monsters if they were honest and undermine their message if they lied.
This. A thousand times just this.
This is why we fight for the rights of women because the regressive religiously addled view women as second class citizens not worthy of human rights or treatment. Your
torpid bronze age shenanigans have gone on for much too long and hurt too many people. Where is the apology from the pope? Where is the outcry from the anti-choicers? There is none because they cannot or will not see the monstrous evil of their positions, better to whip up some more fetus porn or get some more red duct tape and pray to your imaginary sky-daddy.
When the consequences of your bullshite come to light the religiously anti-choice zealots scurry away from the light of reason(rule one in the nutter playbook), when the unnamed become named and the travesty of your rotten ethics is bared to light you offer no defense, because there is no defense for your untenable immoral position.
Welcome to the CBC Signature Series hosted by Paolo Pietropaolo on CBC radio 2 every Sunday. For the Friday Classical Music Interlude I’ve been sending you directly to the CBC Signature Series page, but as Paolo suggested, it is also possible to embed the sound clips directly into the blog post.
Also known as:
The Jolly Good Fellow.
The BFF.
G majors you might know:
Obelix from the Asterix comic book series.
Samwise Gamgee from The Lord of the Rings.
Ron Weasley from the Harry Potter series.
The notes: G – A – B – C – D – E – F♯ – G.
Number of sharps: one.
Relative minor: E minor.
What they said about G major in the 18th and 19th centuries:
“Everything rustic, idyllic and lyrical, every calm and satisfied passion, every tender gratitude for true friendship and faithful love.” – Christian Schubart, 1784
“Sounds simple, satisfied, childlike, innocent, and depicts joy and gratitude.” – J.A. Schrader, 1827
More G major listening:
Valse triste by Jean Sibelius.
Polonaise from Eugene Onegin by Tchaikovsky.”
I am particular fond of G Major as some of the beginning piano pieces that I have learned are featured in the recording. :)
The “gotcha” question is tempting, oh so sorely tempting. The problem is, what if the question you decide to ask reflects poorly on you and your general level of ignorance. As with most train-wrecks, the results are ugly. Watch Potholer dismantle yet another clueless christian creationist with nothing but the sober reality of empirical fact.
It is like watching a traffic accident, everyone just slows down and gawks at the spectacle at hand. The wordpress reader made me slow down and read this post from Cynthia on The Trumpet Sound.
Now usually when I see the godbaggy speak oozing forth from a blog I just keep on going knowing that safely nothing of any intelligible substance will come from there. Today folks though, it is different. This post pretty much has it all – Dreams! Prophecy! Revelation! – oh and the usual racism and batshit insane calumny one expects from the non-reality based.
This is a perfect example of Jon Stewart’s Mudslide on BullShit Mountain. If all your friends and media are saying the same things (based on magic happy thoughts) one has no way of telling what is actually happening outside of your little bubble of delusion. Our devoted GOP base are out of touch reality and as this upcoming examination of their brand of thinking will show, the way to fix problems caused by your delusional beliefs is with… moar delusional beliefs.
Hang on to your hats kids, the Arbourist and the trusty Ole SnarkyRed Pen O’ Justice will be scribing with the full righteous fury of rationality for your benefit today.
Let’s get this party started. (tomfoolery in brown, justice in red)
In the day following my posting of the article “America is Sinking,” I got physically super exhausted that I slept through the day while the election was being concluded in the US. While in deep sleep I got a phone call from my Mom-in-law informing me that Obama won. (I’m pretty sure one cannot be in a deep sleep and talk with the in-laws at the same time, although this could be a extraordinary ability powered by jebus himself, we should err on the side of caution and conclude this is merely poor writing.) We talked for a while and as she hang up, still with my eyes closed I asked, “Now what, Lord?”(Because eye open prayers and pleas to your magic sky daddy is for the sinners dontcha know.)
Then I heard the still small voice in my spirit, “It’s time to mourn.” (Oh, you actually questioned the voices in your head, good for you!) Then I said, “If I heard you correctly, Lord, please give me your word on it.” (You talked back to the voices in your head, bad for you. Not to mention questioning the supreme ooga-booga? I think you get to burn in hell for that one, just sayn’)
Then I could hear the voice said, “Open your Bible,” so I did. (Who doesn’t listen to the voices in their head – oh right..sane people) With eyes half opened, I saw the big bold letters: LAMENTATIONS and the highlighted first two verses. I needed go no further for I have known the verses to heart (full points for rote memorization of a dusty tomb of ancient bronze age wisdom) as these were the same words that He gave me when I asked for confirmation if I saw and heard right about the prophetic connection between A.A. Allen’s Vision and Don McLean’s American Pie song which I wrote here: (yes, folks there is divinity in the song American Pie, if you can see through the tears of laughter follow the link and let gods ‘wisdom’ revealed).
How lonely lies the city that once thronged with people! Once great among the nations, now she is like a widow! Once princess among provinces, she has become a vassal.
Bitterly she weeps at night, tears running down her cheeks. Not one of all her lovers is there to comfort her. Her friends have all betrayed her; they have become her enemies.
As I pondered on the situation and the word of the Lord, I remembered the Statue of Liberty prominently on a very dark background.(Phreaky!!)I thought that’s what America now, covered in darkness as Obama remains in the White House. When the thought of the White House hit , I saw a glimpse of a “black” White House. I thought it was weird, a “black” White House! (well duh! Black is evil and we all know what colour Obama is….Eeeeeevill!) When I recalled the image, it actually looked like a haunted house.
The Lord confirmed this impression of darkness covering America when yesterday I woke up and saw Obama and heard, “Darkness has swallowed up the land.”
(Well I’m glad for the sake of veracity that you are double checking your facts.)
This morning I woke up to a dream (distinguishing between sleep and awake cycles seems problematic for you). In the dream I was in our house in America. Then there came a storm, raging in its fury. It was horrifying as I watched it destroyed everything along the way. The land was covered with water that it became like a sea and our house standing in the middle of the sea. The tsunami-like waves rolled several times over. Then came the strongest wind which uprooted several trees and gave a devastating blow all over. The last wave hit and receded and hardened. Everything was destroyed except our house which remained intact and unscratched. Then there was stillness as if the world stood still. (You are making this shit up to conform to your feelings and then adding “my skydaddy says so” to make your confused rantings sound important.).
The stillness though was very brief for there came a very loud noise of merrymaking. My Mom and I went to the window to see what was happening. We saw people in gay costumes on the watered street . The noise was the sound of a band marching on the street still covered with water. These people are homosexuals (because people in frivolous uniforms = homosexuals the world over, a pox on you shiny sequins!!). My mother asked what they were doing. Then I told her, “This is what the Lord said, that these people do not believe that the storm is His judgment. They still do not believe that God is judging them for their perversion.(And you were worried that Cynthia would only be a racist, but like so many delusional christian warriors the homophobia runs strong as well.) Their merrymaking is an act of defiance, telling God to His face, ‘We don’t believe you.’” (How dare they not believe in my mythology!?! That is a double burning in hell forever on you – and take your sequins with you!!) Just as I said that the sky darkened again and another storm was coming quickly. Then I woke up (You do know that its okay to express your opinions without all the weirdness right?).
Obama was re-elected because America never woke up to reality during his first term(Oh cupcake, the reality you talk about has been around you since day 1, inside the insipid religious bubble of stupid you inhabit reality doesn’t make a whit of sense). The close contest (actually Obama always ahead, but then again, in fantasy land that factual based shite doesn’t matter.) between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney was an indication that the Lord could have changed His mind and given the US another grace period (by grace period you mean more government policy based on the shitty things you believe that have little to do with reality or rational thought.) with a lesser evil in the White House. But as Americans never learned and humbled themselves before God (prostrating oneself for mythological creatures has gone out of style, at least for those who value rationality), He has now given the nation over to the power of the devil (No, not the Devil!) . Evil will be unleashed in greater intensity. Obama is the embodiment of Satan (oh yes, the Devil).
( Just a brief note. Thinking like this is partially responsible for the Democratic victory in 2012, so really my GOP base friends pray harder, its working wonders for you.)
Still reading Against Our Will, but found this quote on the internets –
”I wonder if the ACLU’s position (on pornography) might change if, come tomorrow morning, the bookstores and movie theaters lining Forty-second Street in New York City were devoted not to the humiliation of women by rape and torture, as they currently are, but to a systematized, commercially successful propaganda machine depicting the sadistic pleasure of gassing Jews or lynching blacks? Is this analogy extreme? Not if you are a woman who is conscious of the ever-present threat of rape.”
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