Just when I think I have a handle on base concept or two… *sigh*
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Just when I think I have a handle on base concept or two… *sigh*

Yes, I know I am doing a candy bar a favour. Ignore the advert bits at the end and imagine a world where it was like this all the time.

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f you’ve spent any time on the internet eventually you’ll run across a perfectly horrible subsection of the online community known as Men’s Rights Activists. These brave warrior souls have taken up the mighty struggle of the oppressed dominant majority and are serving as the tip of the spear against the root cause of all evil in society, namely feminism. MRA ‘activists’ spend their time trolling and threatening women online and off, causing a stir when they can for their 15 minutes of infamy, and generally just whinging about how unfair life as a privileged middle class white dude actually is. The misogyny laced whinging gets really old, really fast as one quickly realize how crass and superficial the MRA movement is as their ideology is simply the polar opposite of what feminism advocates on pretty much every issue.
Being the stupid, whingy-creeptastic counterpoint to feminism isn’t exactly the pinnacle of awesome and given some time and self-awareness most MRA’s should come to realize that. But more importantly it is what the MRA’s don’t do, they don’t organize, they don’t create social structures to help men, they don’t have an ideology that is coherent past a furious fap-fest longing for the 1950’s or earlier when men could be men and women could serve them, or some shit like that.
The current MRA lobby is currently punching far above their weight, given that they are a bitter house divided, and only gain notoriety for doing really asinine stunts which usually involve behaving like sexist bags of douche toward women. Rally on Brave Manosphere Warriors! Continue on your manly pursuit of pissing up that rope and yelling forcefully into the wind. No one with a even the smallest wit of sense cares and rightfully dismisses MRA tomfoolery as soon as it rears its ugly little head.
Now take a look internet Atheism. How different is it from what our courageous manospherians are doing? Oh certainly we’re on the thin edge of the wedge in the online battle against the religious. Take a step back though and look at what you’re accomplishing and keep your dry rope handy (dry rope wicks moisture better).
Without the social organization and structures in place i.e. the stuff that actually changes society, how different are we from the the ill-lauded MRA camp. Nothing changes because you (again) adroitly illustrate how christian fop #2342346 believes in magic and how irrational that stance is in the first place. Did you want a cookie for proving, mostly to yourself, that you are on the side of right and they are on the side of wrong. Piss meet rope.
Brave Atheist warrior what are you accomplishing by smugly publishing article #23098340 on how goofy religious belief is? Most rational people get it, we really do so then past preaching to the choir what is the point? Do we honestly think the deluded are going to one day browse to our carefully laid out arguments and proofs against their mumbo-jumbo and go, “holy-fuck batman! I’ve been wrong all this time, let the good times deconversion begin!”
*party officially started, commence roof raising*.
Said no serious religious person ever.
They have history on their side, they have social structures on their side and they have fear on their side. Do you honestly believe that shouting( cogently mind you) into the wind is going to have a measurable effect on the current state of affairs. Full marks if you do, but my optimism tank is out of fucks to give about the perceived importance of shouting into the wind, even if it is for a good cause.
Did you want to change society for the better? Start organizing in meatspace, start putting together the organizations that have the social power to change societies path – our opponents already have the organizations, the traditions, and the fear working for them. We need to do better than mere online activism because it can only go so far when pitted against the organized opposition of the religious faith/lifestyle.


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