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Have you ever wondered what it would be like to be a believer? To put the mythology before reality, place higher regard for fiction over fact? This clip shows a ‘man on the street’ interviewer with a desperately poor couple, begging for money in front of a big box retailer. The interviewer offers them $20 dollars if they cross the word “god” off their sign.
They refuse. Their belief in the sky fairy and what would happen if they went against them directly affected their immediate physical future. Apparently, a hot meal for little Timmy, is not worth hazarding god’s wrath. Watch now and see how holding delusional beliefs are dangerous not only to you, but those around you.
This is why we campaign so strongly here at DWR against the purulence that is christianity and religion in general. Sacrificing the welfare of your child for your belief in magic is unconscionable. Make no mistake, it is religion that is at fault here and it should be done away with as soon as possible.
I’ve never seen an episode of the West Wing, but I would have liked to been there for the episode that has this gem of clip contained within it. I’ve posted this before, but I like it so *poof* here it is again showing exactly why religion, without question, needs to be kept out of the affairs of state.
Wooo! *fist-pump*
Ah, the moral paragon that the bible claims to be, yet not one Commandment such as “thou shall not rape”… Pretty easy for an all knowing, all powerful being to foresee no? Apparently not.
The problem with making a reasonable argument is that it takes time and patience to construct properly. Nonstampcollector makes a great video showing exactly how unonbjective the christian god actually is. Guaranteed to make the religious cringe as they face contradiction after contradiction, and precisely why the video appears on this blog.
Somedays you go looking for trouble, other days you just step in it. On a whim I followed a link from a discussion over at The Drudgeretort back to one of the commenters own little putrid slice of the blogosphere. I was greeted by the feverish ramblings of the delusional in favour stripping women of rights to her body. Justified, of course, by none other than the magic christain book of inanity that says its OKAY (unsurprisingly) to treat women like chattel.
Anti-choice, anti-rational, anti-woman - Religion for the Win!
We’re going to examine a particularly vile post advocating what seems to be the end of female bodily autonomy. The author a thoroughly bizarre narrative stream of godbag tosh referring to the christian boogyman Satan as Mr. Beelzebub. Laughable at the onset, the patronizing tone sets the stage for the upcoming anti-woman religious baffle gab.
“Mr. Beelzebub says many things to make abortion appear as just another meaningless thought with no consequences or judgement from our Creator. Here’s a few stretches on abortion along with my statement in red:” (I guess I’ll have to use green, as our delusional friend is using red to share his wisdom with us. You know its going to be a wild ride in the land of Fail when you see “The Creator” capitalized in the first sentence.)
1. It’s a womans body, so it’s her right. ( Her body is her temple, and God said to protect and take care of your temple. Her right is to protect the child within her temple because they are as one.)
Well, it is actually a woman’s body, so what she does with it is her business. “God said…” well that’s enough to invalidate any argument, so point number one is a wash.
2. It’s not a child, it’s nothing until it’s born. ( He labels the child ‘It’ to distance the child from mother.)
Oh, beware of the temptations of the ‘darkside’ of my mythology of choice and creates a straw man all at the same time. “It” has several names as it matures inside the woman uterus, blastocyst, fetus etc. Calling it a child at these stages is one of the time honoured anti-choice obfuscations of fact. You can call an acorn an oak tree if you’d like, but you’d still be wrong.
3. Feminism gave you the power, use it in all ways. ( With great power comes great responsibility and like anything, Feminism should call for the respect of others and remember that ”just because I can” is not a good reason.)
Wow, channelling the wisdom of Stan Lee and Spiderman to serve the religious whack-a-nut cause. Stay tuned for the next biblical announcement from the Flash about the horrors of premature ejaculation (god hates that too). Feminism does call for the respect of “others” namely women, you know, the half of society that the religious wish to disenfranchise and marginalize. Feminism argues that women should be treated like well, people, as opposed to incubators.
4. Abortion clinics beats mass wire hanger abortion. (The ends doesn’t justify the means. Legal abortion has caused irreversible harm to way more souls, the living and the unborn.)
I have no idea what the point in black means other than that yes indeed, having a medical professional perform an abortion is much safer than illegal means. Misogyny is always ugly, but it is contemptibly vile when dressed in the tattered religious trappings attempting to masquerade as ‘ethical’.
Newsflash: Women will seek abortion whether it is legal are not, and by what you have said its okay for more of them to die because they cannot access the procedure withing the relative safety of hospital or clinic. But murdering women for god is nothing new for christians, hello Inquisition.
4. These are unwanted fetuses and they will be an unwanted children left for tax payers to take care of. ( So we’re prejudging millions of souls, we’re suppose to judge before knowing, how is this Godly?)
God kills millions of babies every month, every year etc. Ever notice that thing that happens to women oh..once a month…all that egg goodness gets washed away. Coupled with the fact that roughly 2/3 of fertilized eggs don’t implant and get exuded means your sky-daddy is all about the murder from stage one.
Oh and you’ll have to prove there is a soul in the first place for any of the above horsepucky to make sense.
5. Why make a female suffer through child-birth when raped, molested or she has medical issues where death is possible while giving birth. ( The devil is good at throwing in arguments that will make us go hmm. This is the debate we should be having regarding abortions, not the all out, everything goes policy we have now.)
That darned devil, making arguments for the idea that women are autonomous human beings and have the right to choose what goes on in their bodies. The whole idea smacks of freedom, equality and justice. Therefore, the religious must be against it.
“As Christians we shouldn’t [sic] except abortions as a necessary evil to protect us from us. [You certainly don’t have to, but for the rest of us who are not afflicted with jebus on the brain, piss-off.]We can also acknowledge ones right to choose, but hold firm to the idea of right and wrong choices[Decided on by who? You amazing moral guide written by the supreme being who in his commandments made no mention of rape? The bible is no place even to start a reasonable ethical system]. Have we gotten so soft on whats wrong that it just don’t matter anymore [I’m sorry about your problem :)]. Well it matters, when so many loose their way and open up to sin, it affects us all [citation needed], and I refuse to voluntarily surrender my soul to this foolishness, I will be no part [You make it sound like giving something up that you most likely don’t have is some sort of big deal. It isn’t.].”
And there you have it folks, partriarchally approved anti-woman, anti-choice religious douche-baggery at it finest. Isn’t the inherent misogyny grand? Damn women wanting a voice of what goes on in their bodies…the nerve.
The idea that religion is harmless and that it is good for people, is patently false.
The raging torrent of evil shit that religion is responsible for claims more victims every second we allow magical thinking to be acceptable and “OK” in our society. It is a double header today, two videos for the price of one post.
Magical thinking kills children. Belief in god kills children. Christianity when insulated far enough away from the light of reason, kills children. Here is one instance, this child died surrounded by adults who were praying to god to restore her to health. She fracking had diabetes. Diabetes is a treatable condition with access to medical treatment.
But no. That is a little too sane. A little too rational.
The father testified in court that he thought “God would heal his daughter…”
The mother, a good ‘christian’ woman was also convicted and could face up to 25 years for her ignorance along with her husband. Send them away for 100 years, it does not matter as the damage is already done. The child is dead because her parents were mired in wilful religious ignorance. They were living in a foolish bronze age delusion that encourages belief in magic and myth at the expense of the real and the rational.
Our tour de force of religious stupidity limps onward. First on the agenda the book called “To Train up a Child” by Michael and Debi Pearl(their website has ‘mysteriously gone 404, since their book was instrumental in the death and torture of children, go figure). This ‘child rearing book’ prescription for the torture and abuse of children is an absolute travesty and prima facie evidence for how religion cloaks itself in morality while advocating the exact opposite.
Want to see evil in action? Let’s grab a review from Christianbook.com. (TW for ignorance and sadism)
“I recommend this book to everyone who has children! (Obviously, because child abuse is not rampant enough, let’s get those numbers going through the roof! This manual advocates beating your child until they comply. Not a little ‘swat’ but laying into your child until they are crying and cowering so they know you mean ‘business’. The second video in this post is about two fine christians who adopted children and then proceeded to beat one of them to death using the tried and true “biblical methods” described in this book.)
We lost the true understanding of discipline, and became so weak minded and selfish that we’ve produced spoiled, winning, uncontrolled “adults.” “Guiding” a child isn’t enough; and you don’t guild a child, you guild an adult. (Ah, so apparently torturing and beatings are will cure behavioural problems straight up. This gets even more atrocious as this religious fuck-wit cites verse to perversely back up her child abusing ways.)
“The rod is to guide, not hit” is strictly unbiblical. (Feeling the mercy and compassion of the bible already, I know I am. )
If your a christain the bible clearly instructs us to use the rod, ” Withhold not correction from the child; for if thou BEATEST him with the ROD, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the ROD, and shalt deliver his soul from hell (Prov 23:13-14).” “He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chastenth him betimes (Prov. 13.24).” “The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child let to himself bringeth his mother to shame(Prov. 29:15).” “Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child: but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him (Prov 22:15).” How can you misinterpet that? (Jesus-fuck, how indeed could you misinterpret that? I mean other than using your rationality and moral instincts to identify that the abuse and torture of children is wrong, how could you?)
It’s mind boggling how children act these days.. so unruly, so disrespectful to parents. We need to go back to the old time discipline, (biblical) and STOP listening to people with “degrees.”(Because careful study and observation of behaviour has been a complete write-off. Yes, let us stop looking to science for answers because the bible knows better, let us get back to beating our kids so they fear us.)
Obviously, how they “think” our child should be raised isn’t working too well. (Back in the real world, the lessons children learn from violence are evident: fear of authority, blind obedience, might makes right. Definite boons to society no? ) People need to have more children ( you need to have less, you ignorant fool), then they’ll understand. Our children is our future ( Not the ones, trained like yours, to use violence to obtain their goals ).
I am from a family of 9 children. I have 4 children 6years old and under. We read and applied “To Train up a Child” and it worked marvelously ( Violence, coercion and intimidation are always effective in the short term. I’m sure the psychological scarring won’t be too too bad, maybe all of your children won’t turn out to be as abusive as you.) People always commit on how well our children behave! ( As they comment on your ability to write, reflecting your tenious grasp on reality ) They are HAPPY scared shitless and so fun to be around, and we are planning to have more ( Once you get the torture-a-go-go rockn’ you just can’t stop!)!
I will be ordering multi copies because people are always asking where they can get a copy. It’s a short, easy read and straight to the point. (Child abuse is good) This book helps you to understand and apply what the bible teaches. ( how to abuse people and scar them for life, religion the gift that keeps on giving. ) If you want to produce responsible, respectful, obedient, happy, loving children this book is defiently a must!!!” (…)
Written by a true believer… But hey who am I to comment on this? I am an avowed atheist and perhaps my treatment of this issue has not been charitable. Lets see this book in action:
They only beat her for 7 hours before she died.
Read that again. If you’re not feeling a little (or a lot) sick to your stomach by now, you have a problem, because you’re not grasping the enormity of the evil being perpetrated here. These people, backed by their particular religious nonsense, tortured to death an innocent child. There is no morality to be found in religion.
I point to QualiaSoup’s assertion on what morality actually is: “Empathy, Experience, Reason and Knowledge – When we KNOW better, we can DO better. It does not get any more straightforward than this. Religion is a barrier to knowing better and therefore has no place in any rational system of morals. How many more grievous examples do we need before we can finally say that religion is an (ongoing) atrocity and a putrid stain on humankind that needs to be banished for the good of the species?
Your musty christian tome says a lot of neat stuff. Let’s see, if we did not get to cherry pick the morality that suits us, what we would have to do. But then again, consistency is not really a big part of belief now is it?
Thank you to Dammit Janet for the video link.
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